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Jun 02, 2009 16:56

Best. Comments. Ever.

(mixed in with the stupid bullshit ones :)

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zenithed June 2 2009, 22:44:32 UTC
This is probably asking for trouble here, but was she much worse than previous Home Secretaries? The Met have been shits on their own terms, and there's still no sign of ID cards.

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untermensch June 2 2009, 22:56:31 UTC
There seems to be that general consensus, yeah

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zenithed June 2 2009, 23:04:38 UTC
Based on what apart from her husband having a wank on expenses? I'm not sure what she's done that's been particularly egregrious.

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untermensch June 2 2009, 23:08:16 UTC
The porn and the expenses are (should!) not even be a factor here. It's her unrelenting, ill-conceived assault against civil liberties and decision upon decision against better informed expert opinion. I think all that stuff is pretty evident to anybody who cursorily follows the news!

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zenithed June 2 2009, 23:17:00 UTC
I stopped listening to R4 when the economic crash kicked in with its unremitting tedium so I'm happy to accept that I'm out of the loop, but 42 day detention has been knocking around for years and drug policy by media has always been the case. I really doubt any replacement of either party is going to reverse these decisions.

The comments in the link just seem to be endless statements of how awful a Home Secretary she's been without any supporting evidence.

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untermensch June 2 2009, 23:19:49 UTC
Not sure we're reading the same link. I saw a shedload of relevant facts being brought out. Also, a bunch of people pointing out that, given past trends, the next HS will be even worse. I'm in that camp, myself.

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zenithed June 2 2009, 23:26:56 UTC
That I can certainly agree with. I reckon this is more to do with a cross party cycle of one-upmanship when it comes to kowtowing to the rightwing press than it is to do with individual personalities though.

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untermensch June 2 2009, 23:22:37 UTC
Also - and this is somthing which affects me and a lot of people I know - she passes law upon law and alteration upon alteration to immigration law which has severely fucked up the lives of smart people who were building lives here, at the rate of at least one serious new caveat every week or two. It's absolutely insane. If you had been watching her closely as some have you'd be aware of so much of these things. You should maybe look at researching her track record yourself. It's long and tedious and fraught with u-turns, embarrassment and stubbornness.

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zenithed June 2 2009, 23:30:49 UTC
Fair enough then, that does sound pretty horrific. Guess we'll see how things go in the next five years though...

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untermensch June 2 2009, 23:33:42 UTC
Lot of momentum... I ain't holding my breath :\

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zenithed June 2 2009, 23:38:12 UTC
To be fair the prospect of things getting worse shouldn't stop people complaining about how shit things are right now.

Fingers crossed.

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