Now and Forever...Itsumademo... - Chapter 23

[unare_haineko]

Title: Now and Forever…いつまでも…

Author: Unare Haineko

Pairing: [Juntoshi] Matsumoto Jun x Ohno Satoshi

Rating: R-ish, but NC-17 for this chapter

Summary: [Revised] Three years after the ending of ‘Kodoku kara Umareta Ai’, we have Juntoshi trying to raise their son Ayumu while the demons from the dark shadows that separated Arashi in KodoAi come back to

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Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 2

[mmestrange]

On Jun
Slowly but surely, Jun is becoming aware of the cracks in his illusions of the Juntoshi relationship. At the start of Itsumademo, Jun believes Ohno to be a reasonable man and a loving man. This is the illusion Ohno has created through whining that he can’t do without Jun and always needs Jun around. But we know it is an illusion because Ohno only craves Jun’s company for sex and that’s why he crafts the illusion of being a loving partner. The illusion is slowly being eroded for Jun, which is why he realises something in his opinion of Ohno being a good man is not quite right. And this is why he feels sick at the thought of Ohno giving him fellatio. He has an idea that although Ohno appears attentive to him, it’s not so much that he’s kind and gentle but because he just has lust and more lust on his mind. This inkling leads him to feel revolted when Ohno bounces on him following his return from hospital and sucks him off before wanking. While he is relieved that Ohno isn’t asking for sex, he still feels disconcerted. Why? Because he still feels like a sex object that is just there for Ohno to do as he pleases. The revolt he feels will undoubtedly be on the same level as his feelings when he gave Ohno fellatio that night when Ohno lied about the plasters to Ayu. It will be a matter of time before he is fully alienated from Ohno. He is already repulsed by Ohno’s overtures to him (which are all sexual in nature without any emotion); he is also repulsed by Ohno’s lack of concern for anything else beyond wanking, sex and more wanking and sex; he is also repulsed by Ohno’s demands for things which the older man expects to be fulfilled. This cannot go on well, especially since Jun is dimly aware that this Ohno is not the same Ohno he fell in love and this Ohno is not the same Ohno at the start of Itsumademo.

We know that Jun is determined to keep himself busy with a life outside their idyllic flat, and that he is determined to get to the bottom of the whole Arashi disbandment issue triggered by Iago. With such grit and determination, we are reminded that Jun is slowly regaining mastery over the part of him that was brash, go-getting, resolute, decisive and bold - the side of him that was in Arashi. With him reminiscing how things were with Arashi and with him starting up his new property management business, he will get his get-up-and-go back. With that, we will see a return of the Jun that can love and hate with equal passion. If and when he turns against Ohno, it will be ugly and it could very well be an acrimonious split.

The signs for the possible split between Juntoshi are there. Ohno is starting to repulse Jun, and if Jun continues to feel like a sex object and if Ohno continues to expect things to be given to him on a player, Jun will eventually decide that he is not getting back anything from the investment that is his relationship with Ohno. Let is not forget that Jun threw away Arashi, his career, everything, just to be with Ohno. And now, what has happened? Ohno is proving to be a bad investment; there are next to no returns on the matter and Jun is starting to feel irritated. It’s a matter of time before he finds out about Ohno’s trysts with Reiya and how little NASA!Ohno (as opposed to normal Ohno) cares for him

My question here is:
(03) What will happen when Jun finally sees Ohno for the NASA!buffoon that he is? Will Jun snap and go ballistic on Ohno? Or will Jun go down the deep end and wallow in the same madness he was in when he went away to the ryokan by himself to better understand his inner turmoil? Will Jun be so tormented that he will be unable to deal with the whole Iago issue? Will Jun and Ohno have come to points with Ayu caught in the middle so much so that the lad decides to take off by himself somewhere?

Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[mmestrange]

Interestingly, Ayu’s innocent question has sparked off something in Jun. I believe this could lead not only to more reminiscing, but could translate into Jun being more receptive to being in contact with the other Arashi members once again. His question on Nino is telling because it seems like he’s gauging as to whether Nino still holds antipathetic thoughts and feelings towards him. He may keep the memories of Arashi back in the locked box, but with Ohno so different now, Jun will make the invariable comparison and when that happens, the floodgates will open.

(04) What will give Jun the final push to speak to Nino? Will it be through Ayu? Or will it be through Miyazono?

(05) Speaking of Miyazono, why exactly was Miyazono at the television studio? And who did he follow there? Will he make the connection between what Jun told him about Kakia, Iago and the club (in an earlier chapter) with Kakia (whom he meets in this chapter) and the doubles that Ayu told him about?

Re: Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[unare_haineko]

It is only a matter of time before Jun no longer allows the parasitic NaSA!Ohno to have any part of him. Detached from the host, the miserable parasite will have to seek out another or risk extinction. Haha!

The Juntoshi relationship is deteriorating right before Jun's eyes, but it is a slow death, marked by hints dropped here and there. The symptoms of a whithering relationship are there, yet due to dramatic irony Jun does not have all the information we are privileged to. His illusion is definitely starting to crack and creak under the stress of Ohno's NaSA tendencies.

You are correct that Jun is tough and that he is slowly bringing back that part of him he locked away while he was on this extended holiday in a world of mirage. He has all the resources within his reach, particularly dear Miyazono who is starting to piece together the relationships for Jun. I think Ohno is on the shinkansen to your circle of hell (having sex in the bathroom with Reiya) as we speak. Have you a special torture prepared for his depraved soul? (Hopefully there will still be something to torture once Jun gets through with him)

Re: Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[mmestrange]

Well, Ohno is like an ivy plant. He stands for good things like friendship and unity and things like that, but all he does is cling and suck the life out of Jun. I look forward to him further descending into the pits of hell. Though by that point, he will be little more than an animal. Interestingly, there's a news article about primitive men once having penile spines (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12689692). I kid you not. Of course, the main thing i noticed in this article is that loss of these spines corresponded with the loss of some part of the brain. but for some reason the author of that article just glossed over the brain and stayed on the penis. a few friends had said that the loss of these spikes on the penis must have stemmed from too much hand polishing... Which does explain why so many men nowadays are wankers.

Well. At the rate NaSa!Ohno is hand polishing the spikes off his penis, Jun or Ayu will tell Jun, "Satoshi-papa is walking around naked with his hand on his little friend." Quick, let's turn Ohno into a Min god statue and just put him up in the museum as a cursed object.

I left out something in the main commentary here about Ayu and his daimon which guides him. As I wrote in the notes of the edited version of ch 23, the daimon is divine and guides one to the noble and spirited things. and it is in Ayu, which is why he can see things with the necessary detachment (well, things that don't have anything to do with Kazu the Apatosaurus and the namecard he must have hidden there). The daimon is the very thing Socrates claimed was guiding him in his conversations/teachings with the youths he was alleged to be corrupting.

I also left out that hubby Miyazono is delicious here. Oh, they don't make men like that any more.... Hubby has many pieces of the puzzle. It's what he will do to join them that intrigues me. Oh la la.

Re: Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[unare_haineko]

Pft! Penile spines. Ah, this explains it all. The creator must have found it to be humorous for men to have these things and must have been sorely disappointed when they were deleted from the evolutionary track of human DNA. I think men should be kept in sperm banks for reproduction, harvested for sperm like chickens and their eggs. The good ones can be out and about in society doing things we know they're better at than women, like physical labor, professional cooking, fashion, cosmetics, and interior design.

I wouldn't put it past Ohno to walk around penis in hand around the flat, but spare the boy! He's only 3! Of course, the boy has already seen so much at such a tender age. But do we really want to expose him to Ohno's depravity even if the boy is dimly aware that Ohno has an addiction?

Re: Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[mmestrange]

Men should be kept in tiny little cages like non-free range chickens. It would be an amusing sight. And then we can pick one. XD

Well, you know, I'm all in for corruption. But it could be a little too much for Ayu. Perhaps Jun can witness this instead and we can spare the indignity. Imagine if Ohno-mama finds out... Oh... the possibilities there too.

Re: Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[unare_haineko]

Non-free range chickens. Hah! This is why I <3 you so much. Or even better, we could make them ants and have a little ant farm that we could shake around whenever they start acting up or getting wise with us.

We don't want Ayumu ending up sexually dysfunctional like Ohno because of a childhood trauma like that even if he's not really Ohno's son. Although that would make for an interesting twist. Hmm...maybe I could write something later like an alternate ending. Ayumu sees Ohno and becomes this sexual predator in his teens to the horror of Jun and grandmama! I am evil...

Re: Commentary and Analyses, Chapter 23 – Juntoshi Dynamics, part 3

[mmestrange]

I like this ant farm. XD

True, we don't want Ayu ending up a wanker like Ohno. But the horror it would bring Jun and grandmama... there's something appealing in that. heh.