Mar 17, 2004 00:07
This post is my latest response to a series of comments concerning my 2nd to last (now 3rd to last) post about gay marriage legislation. It was getting lengthy, and it was pretty two sided, so I decided to open up this "forum," if you will, with a new post. Enjoy.
Anonymous commenteer wrote:
Murder and Abortion are both wrong, they are against the law, but they also include the taking of a humans life, which in no way relates to the gay marriage issue. By allowing these people to marry you are not casing mortal damage to anyones life, so i really don't see how you can compare the three.
Have some decency you say? Is it decent to deny human beings the right or love? Weather you believe it or not gays do not choose to be that way, it is not a choice, it is a God-given charateristic of themselves. If God didn't like it he would not create it. These people want the right to see their loved one in the hospital when ill, they want the rights that every other heterosexual person in this country recieve, and you want to deny them that? You want to tell people how they can/can't live their lives?
Gay marriage may not be right in the bible, i've read the bible, i know its in there, but these people are not asking to be married under God, they are asking to be married through the state, religions have every right to not allow it in their churches and by their administers, but marriage is not all about religion, there are tons of people who get married by the state and have nothing to do with religion. I whole heartedly support you if you say they can't get married officaily by a church, but to deny them the right of state marriage, which has no 'rules' persay, state marriage is not run by the Bible, Koran, Torah or any other book, so it is NOT about religion. You tell me to have decency and you're the one who wants to take rights away from these people.
That admendment to the constitution, that Bush is pushing, that would be an outrage to this country and all that we stand for. Writing discrimination into the document that proclaims our freedom is hypocricy!
To which I responded:
We'll start with the God-given characteristic point. Homosexuality is NOT natural, as much as you'd like to think so. Anatomy speaks most loudly to this fact in that the parts simply don't match up. Having read the bible, I'm sure you know that God created Adam and Eve, and Adam was not complete until God had created Eve from him, then God said it was good. If god meant for homosexuality to exist, he could have created another man instead of a woman, and he would have made animals homosexual (which they are not). Scientifically, homosexuality is a sham. Using your logic, I can hypothesize that since murder exists, God must have created that to, and it's alright to practice, in fact, it should be our right to murder someone else. Homosexuality, like all of our sin, is simply that: sin. It is a perversion of the things God has given us. We have the choice to act in the way we want because God has given us that choice. Our responsiblity is to act according to His will and His design for us and for those gifts he gives us, and as you said, he will judge us accordingly. A gay man's sexual sin is no different than any sexual sin I committ, and I'm willing to admit that my sin is wrong. I'm willing to attempt, with God's guidance and direction, to overcome this sin. In no way is my sin condonable, or remotely natural, just because I pratice it. In the same way, God didn't create my sin, He allowed for me to sin.
Secondly, you need to read the constitution. I'd like to see the part (as somebody who has read the entire document on many occasions as an avid history buff and a political science major, I surely haven't seen this part) that states that people have the right to homosexual marriage, something that is morally wrong. I'd like to truly understand how banning homosexual marriage is creating second class citizens and purporting a "seperate but equal" policy. Are gays being forced to sit in the backs of buses? Are gays not allowed to vote or run for office? The true problem here is discrimination towards heterosexuals who actually stand up for their beliefs. Christians in the United States have been getting the short end of the legal stick for decades now, most notably starting with the Roe vs. Wade case in 1974 that legalized the murder of babies in the United States, and continuing as social minorities, people who are essentially unwilling to admit to sinful, wrong behavior, have filed lawsuit after lawsuit against Christians who are simply adhering to the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights, and practicing their right to believe what they believe. I find it odd that legislation acts in favor of any interest group who wants to express religious freedom EXCEPT Christians. It's time the first amendment began to benefit not only minorities in the United States, but the majority as well.
Also, contrary to popular belief, the majority of Americans don't believe that homosexual marriages should be legalized. The loud minority simply speaks louder, as is the case in most situations. sadly enough, the Supreme Court feels it is their duty to play social justice brigade and legalize anything that is not of popular opinion, without regard for morality, in a twisted Millisian Extreme Liberalism. The great commonwealth of Massachusetts is in danger of becoming the first great autocratic government in the United States as the Supreme Court Tribunal passes legislation against the will of its own people. I believe legislators have the duty of making laws, not radical bleeding hearts with robes and gavels. THAT is in the Constitution.
Finally, I find it sad that you have no vision of the future for your country. You worry about the so called "rights" of minorities such as gays, who frankly have all the rights any other citizen who abides by the laws that govern us, both natural and institutional, while your own country falls to shambles as it increasingly secularizes. As Ronald Reagan so accurately put it, "The Roman empire fell when they abandoned their gods..." The United States, as it spirals further and further away from any moral standard, loses credibility among the rest of the world, but more importantly, and more devastatingly, among its own people. Our government, as Abraham Lincoln so famously characterized, "Of the people, by the people, and for the people," is no longer that, it is a government for the smallest interest group with the loudest voice who can outscream the majority until it gets its way.
"My lover the river makes a better soldier than a bride..." -Every Time I Die