Frak!

Mar 21, 2009 08:49

Now that's the way to end a series - with some frakking incredible storytelling. Ron Moore said he was stressing over how to write the ending to BSG, getting all caught up in the plot, and it wasn't working. Then he had an epiphany: 'It's the characters, stupid.'

Frak yeah )

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firefly124 June 13 2009, 05:29:45 UTC
Likes:

1. The way they used the Opera House dream was very well done. [And the subtext of it - that you need not only the two typical protectors, the mother (Athena) and the leader of your people (Laura), but also other, non-traditional protectors like Caprica and Gaius to come together to protect Hera and the future of humanity. Also it's all even steven - 2 humans, 2 cylons.]

Ooh, I hadn't even really picked up on that aspect of it. I like that.

2. The fact that Gaius and Caprica both having versions of each other in their heads was real.

Now see, I was really attached to the idea that Baltar was going to turn out to be the one surviving copy of the missing "Daniel," and that his hallucination!Caprica was going to be a projection while her hallucination!Gaius would also be one. Them being able to see each other's projections still worked. But having them turn out to be actual "angel"-ish things kind of annoyed me.

3. Starbuck and Apollo got really drunk the first night they met and almost got it on! I swear I hadn't heard ( ... )

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firefly124 June 13 2009, 05:29:59 UTC
Dislikes/concerns:

1. I wanted a bit of closure for Leoben and Starbuck - not sexual, but something. He had been such an important part of her journey (and underscored once again that it takes both humans and cylons) that I felt it needed something more.

Yeah, Leoben was just kind of missing at the end, and there needed to be some resolution there.

2. I have a few concerns about it devolving into a pastoral, that return to primitive nobility that will make everything better. Oh, well - it's a genre for a reason, I guess.

I didn't see it so much as a return to primitive nobility as, like Lee said, a clean slate. Starting over.

3. The last few minutes. They tell us Hera is mitochondrial Eve, and that's important to the human/cylon message. It also saves it a bit from the pastoral thingy ( ... )

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ubiquirk June 13 2009, 14:51:44 UTC
I didn't see it so much as a return to primitive nobility as, like Lee said, a clean slate. Starting over.

I get the starting over thing now, but boy, you should have seen some BSG freak the hell out over this.

Even with the "doesn't like to be called God" line, it still annoys me, because it does buy into that neo-Platonic "whatever it is, there can be only one" thing.

I know! If the message is that we have to incorporate multiple ways of being to make the best hope for the future (Hera as mitochondrial Eve), why wasn't that social as well as genetic? Why the push for monotheism? Argh.

all the purely human lead women were gone by the end, which didn't exactly help the overall sense of misogynistic undertonesYes, I want to know why there couldn't have been one viable male Cylon/female human storyline in the entire series. Kara/Leoben doesn't count (much as a part of me wishes it did) - he was too messed up ( ... )

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ubiquirk June 13 2009, 14:44:36 UTC
Well, they did have that one night on New Caprica

True, but guh - that just adds to the sadness in some ways. It was the most open and vulnerable we ever see either of them, and then ...

Or did they hang onto some technology and end up leaving again?

I don't know - I thought it was implied that all of the Colonists gave up technology. Now that I've thought about it more, I think they pretty much had to - they had no way to machine anything new.

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