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There is no suffering in heaven, and no Evil. This is by definition. It is a perfect place. The free will defence of evil states that God created evil because it wanted us to have free will; that free will was more important than anything else. If free will is of such importance that God creates evil in order to allow moral free will, then the beings in Heaven must have free will. Heaven is a place where there is free will, but no evil. This means that the evil and suffering which exist in the world are not necessary for free will. Free will can exist without the presence of evil and suffering. This means that the free will theodicy is not valid. God could make the Earth and everywhere else the same as heaven, with the same free will, the same hope of meeting God in heaven, but without suffering or evil. We can draw some conclusions from the fact that God has created evil and suffering, despite this not being required for free will:

* Heaven does not exist; meaning there is no afterlife or suffering will still exist after death, or we are resurrected back on the Earth eternally.
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* Free Will does not exist on heaven or Earth
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* God is not all-powerful and Evil was created by a different being not created by God.
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* God does not exist or did not create the Universe
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* God is evil and unworthy of worship, praise, love, etc.