Comments | twfarlan: Just curious

twfarlan

Just curious

Jan 08, 2007 07:56

Is there such a thing as "narcissistic paranoia?"

idiocy

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bronxelf_ag001 January 8 2007, 14:23:33 UTC

Paranoia is often a defining feature of narcissism.

You prob'ly think this song is about you....

twfarlan January 8 2007, 14:46:14 UTC

I didn't see distinct paranoia as an element listed in the description of NPD to which you linked. Still, if you think everyone around you is jealous of you, that would be paranoid if not diagnostically paranoiac.

bronxelf_ag001 January 8 2007, 14:47:14 UTC

exactly my point.

I bet you think this song is about you, don't you? Don't you? Don't you?

twfarlan January 8 2007, 14:55:28 UTC

Okay, Carly, I get the message. ;)

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Re: What a fascinating idea for a research grant! bronxelf_ag001 January 8 2007, 14:30:53 UTC

http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/dsm-iv.html

Re: What a fascinating idea for a research grant! twfarlan January 8 2007, 14:44:17 UTC

Self-diagnoses being as trustworthy as they are, this is illustrated by the link Elf provided, which would also highlight the problem of finding research subjects. A narcissistic person wouldn't admit that anything is wrong, and how can you tell that someone has a problem if they don't complain of it?

Re: What a fascinating idea for a research grant! bronxelf_ag001 January 8 2007, 14:48:27 UTC

Because it's not a problem for them.

It's a problem for everyone else.

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filkertom January 8 2007, 14:38:55 UTC

Why, of all the people in this world, are you asking ME???

twfarlan January 8 2007, 14:45:15 UTC

(laughing) Narcissistic Opera Diva: "Me me me me..."

rickvs January 8 2007, 15:09:36 UTC

I think that'd be defined as the belief that, "I have painted a target on myself, since my excellence puts me head and shoulders above everyone else."

twfarlan January 8 2007, 15:40:24 UTC

Sounds about what I was thinking, yeah.

livethlfe January 8 2007, 15:12:52 UTC

From my experience with people with NPD and PPD (paranoid personality disorder) as well as paranoid schizophrenia, I haven't seen or heard of a clear case of paranoia mixed with narcissism. The distinction I see based on my own studies and experiences is that someone who's paranoid is 1.) worried about things that are completely impossible and 2.) feels that their beliefs (paranoias) are that someone/something is out to cause harm. Narcissistic people may believe things that are completely impossible (like this song is completely about ME), but they see it as a positive thing. "This song is about me because I'm the greatest thing on this planet!" rather than, "This song is about me because the people who are trying to kill me are using it to convey a threat." (a literal example of a former client ( ... )

twfarlan January 8 2007, 15:38:03 UTC

So, have you noted any mixes of, "I'm so wonderful that people hate me due to jealousy; everytime I come into the room, they all stop talking and then start whispering so they're plotting against me because of how amazing I am"?

Oh, why did I ask? Oh, surely no reason at all. Why, there's no one particular person who made me ask. Not at all. (innocent smile)

livethlfe January 8 2007, 15:44:22 UTC

Yea, borderline personality disorder, which I hadn't thought about till reading the next comment :)

eleccham January 8 2007, 21:44:27 UTC

What about the assumption that any last thing which the person chooses to take offense at must obviously have been done specifically and expressly to inconvenience/get back at/target that person and only that person, not necessarily because "they're so wonderful" but because everything is always all about them? That still qualifies, yes?

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