After reading that, the lingering image is chick fight! :-)
Seriously, though, I think you're channeling your inner libertarian again. Not starting anything means you eschew aggression (i.e., never initiate violence), but you are free to defend yourself. Those are both core libertarian beliefs. As for "fair play" in a one-on-one fight, someone who is an aggressor has already abrogated it.
(laugh) I'm not a libertarian, not even on the inside. ;) I agree with several fundamental planks of the libertarian floor, but I disagree with a few, as well. With this one, however, I'm in full agreement. If you start a fight, you accept the consequences, and one consequence is that you might get your ass handed to you
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Female angerjenni_the_oddSeptember 9 2006, 04:01:16 UTC
Talking to my male friends about their attitudes towards fights, they all tend to go with the whole 'honor' route. Fight fair, all that stupidity. Me? I would scratch, bite, kick, yank out hair by the roots, choke, gouge, and otherwise do whatever it takes to make my opponent stop moving.
I wonder if it has to do with the frequency of fighting, and the circumstances under which it would be appropriate. All my male friends were raised, essentially, to understand that aggression was normal. Fights are not at all common for them, but it's also not a terrific shock that they would be in one. The girls I know? We are far more passive. We restrain physical anger, we do not respond to problems with violence. To get us to a point where we would willingly fight, you'd pretty much have to get us to a point where we'd be willing to kill our opponent.
Re: Female angertwfarlanSeptember 9 2006, 04:31:35 UTC
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The song is absolutely correct: the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
You know what people WON'T say at a funeral? "Well, he probably would have won when that guy jumped him, but he fought fair. At least he died honorably."
Gimme a guy to fight any old day of the week. Guys are predictable in their fight, for the most part. Y'all kinda puff and posture for a bit before gettin' down to bidness.
Gals? Fuhgeddaboutit. They'll come at ya outta NOWHERE.
This post came to me after visiting the elder stepdaughter and her brood. The eldest child and the middle child (male and female, respectively) were playing, when girlchild decided it would be fun to smack her brother around, which is apparently not uncommon. Stepdaughter reminded boychild that hitting girls is never okay. As they aren't my kids, I didn't say anything to them. However, this is bad policy, and foolish on its face. If a girl strikes me, she accepts the potential consequences, which is that I will hit her with a frying pan, golf club, brick, kick in the teeth, etc. Also, this is a consequence of the desire to level the playing field, removing gender bias in all aspects of life, which I am all for but only if done totally and equitably. A girl will be treated no differently than a boy at all, or if not, then inequity will continue and might will make right.
It is extremely difficult for me to even think about hitting a woman. I mean, I agree with you intellectually but the "you don't hit a woman" instinct is so drilled into me I'm not sure I ever could except in extreme circumstances.
The best advice I ever got about fighting is this: remember that fights usually have two outcomes: win/lose (where one guy wins and the other looses), and stalemate. Sometimes fighting to a stalemate is easier and wiser than fighting to win.
I don't believe there's a winner or a loser to any fight. All fights end in either stalemates or lose/lose. Still. There are degrees of losing, and if I have to fight, I intend to lose a lot less than the other person/people involved.
I'm with you. It's hard to think about hitting a girl or woman for me, as well. Got to think about it, though.
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Seriously, though, I think you're channeling your inner libertarian again. Not starting anything means you eschew aggression (i.e., never initiate violence), but you are free to defend yourself. Those are both core libertarian beliefs. As for "fair play" in a one-on-one fight, someone who is an aggressor has already abrogated it.
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Me? I would scratch, bite, kick, yank out hair by the roots, choke, gouge, and otherwise do whatever it takes to make my opponent stop moving.
I wonder if it has to do with the frequency of fighting, and the circumstances under which it would be appropriate. All my male friends were raised, essentially, to understand that aggression was normal. Fights are not at all common for them, but it's also not a terrific shock that they would be in one.
The girls I know? We are far more passive. We restrain physical anger, we do not respond to problems with violence. To get us to a point where we would willingly fight, you'd pretty much have to get us to a point where we'd be willing to kill our opponent.
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You know what people WON'T say at a funeral? "Well, he probably would have won when that guy jumped him, but he fought fair. At least he died honorably."
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We females are far more vicious, nasty and downright mean to our own gender than we EVER are to yours.
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Gimme a guy to fight any old day of the week. Guys are predictable in their fight, for the most part. Y'all kinda puff and posture for a bit before gettin' down to bidness.
Gals? Fuhgeddaboutit. They'll come at ya outta NOWHERE.
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The best advice I ever got about fighting is this: remember that fights usually have two outcomes: win/lose (where one guy wins and the other looses), and stalemate. Sometimes fighting to a stalemate is easier and wiser than fighting to win.
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I'm with you. It's hard to think about hitting a girl or woman for me, as well. Got to think about it, though.
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