however you dress, you're pretty much always doing something that's been done before. i guess all you can do to be different is to truly be yourself & not give a fuck about what other people think about it.
your war comment really shits me, though. people protesting ('standing & shouting against the war in iraq') never claimed understand completely what is going on (no-one does), or that saddam is not an absolute fuck. every protestor i've met realises that saddam should be taken out of power,. but killing thousands/more of innocent people, bombing hospitals & taking over their entire way of living is certainly not the way to go about it. standing & shouting against the war in iraq is not a way of saying "we love saddam, don't kill him", it's a group of (generally) good, passionate people standing & shouting for what they believe in.
p,s funny how america managed to bomb many many hospitals & churches & other such things, but managed to leave the government buildings that they were to take over & the oil that they were to steal completely untouched.
somehow i don't think george bush's top intentions were "save the iraqi people".
i said i'd rather discuss it off livejournal the oil belongs to the iraqi's. they have promised that and lived up to their promise.
i don't agree with war tia. but i disagreed with the existence of saddam even more.
and i hate people who act on propaganda and who don't understand. i see both sides of the argument and i've formed my opinion. but i won't stand for people who form an opinion based on falsehoods.
if you'd rather discuss it off livejournal, why is it on your livejournal? ;)
saddam is the same as george bush. unfairly elected, hungry for power. he has sent his army to 'capture saddam', killing thousands of innocent people along the way. so why shouldn't george bush be taken out of power also?
as i said, some people acting against the war in iraq may not fully understand every detail about saddam or the war itself because of all the propaganda the media feeds us, ;but what they do fully understand is that war is not fucking necessary.
so you're saying that the protesters who do not fully understand the war situation (or so you assume) are not entitled to fight for what they do know & believe in? ..i'm sure your opinion is validated seeing as though you are pretty much a member of secret intelligence & seem to know everything about said situation. jump down off your self righteous middle class white male high horse.
How can people who don't understand know what they are fighting for. Most people do understand; that is not the issue. I don't agree with the people that don't. I haven't labelled anyone as being those people. I don't pretend to know everything. i have never said that, the protesters do not understand i have merely said i disagree with those that do not understand what they are fighting for. The boy who cried wolf at least knew what a wolf was.
Whether I agree with the war or not is irrelevant- my comment was merely related to people who think they understand; and form radical opinions based upon it when they don't.
It's not right to dish out opinions based on politics. It's not really fair; and it creates more problems than we need to have.
so how do you seperate those that do & do not understand when you "don't pretend to know everything" . you are forming the same kind of uninformed radical opinions as the peaceniks you so blatantly oppose.
How can people who don't understand know what they are fighting for. Most people do understand; that is not the issue. I don't agree with the people that don't. I haven't labelled anyone as being those people. I don't pretend to know everything. i have never said that, the protesters do not understand i have merely said i disagree with those that do not understand what they are fighting for. The boy who cried wolf at least knew what a wolf was.
Whether I agree with the war or not is irrelevant- my comment was merely related to people who think they understand; and form radical opinions based upon it when they don't.
It's not right to dish out opinions based on politics. It's not really fair; and it creates more problems than we need to have.
yes, the americans 'accidently' bombed the fuck out of the hospitals & innocent peoples homes & churches; OOPS, accidents happen. i suppose by it was by pure luck one of the only things left standing was the goverment building & oil. get my drift
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didn't say i agreed with the united states; cause i dont didn't say i agreed with the nature of the war; which i dont didn't say anything other than those who fight for the sake of fighting don't deserve the right to fight.
"were we to stand back; when we had the power to stop him" perhaps you should re-read a few of your previous comments.
first it was that they were fighting when they didn't fully understand, now it's that they are fighting for the sake of fighting?? "I do know I saw so many march and protest..for the sake of just protesting. They didn't give a shit about Iraq; or the war; or Saddam or even America." --how do you know they were for the sake of just protesting? really, did you go & interview each individual person & ask why they were protesting? they wouldn't go if they didn't give a shit about it. the people creating the protests don't spend money & time just for the sake of protesting.
i'm making more problems? i'm commenting on here to things you have said in yr post & comments after that; i thought that's what the comment button was for. perhaps if you find this to be a "problem", disable comments.?
i never said you supported the war in iraq or americas actions (although may i requote you;"were we to stand back; when we had the power to stop him[...]or try out best to destroy him). i'm expressing my views on something you posted & commented on. again, if is this a problem perhaps you should disable comments.
your war comment really shits me, though. people protesting ('standing & shouting against the war in iraq') never claimed understand completely what is going on (no-one does), or that saddam is not an absolute fuck. every protestor i've met realises that saddam should be taken out of power,. but killing thousands/more of innocent people, bombing hospitals & taking over their entire way of living is certainly not the way to go about it. standing & shouting against the war in iraq is not a way of saying "we love saddam, don't kill him", it's a group of (generally) good, passionate people standing & shouting for what they believe in.
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somehow i don't think george bush's top intentions were "save the iraqi people".
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the oil belongs to the iraqi's. they have promised that and lived up to their promise.
i don't agree with war tia.
but i disagreed with the existence of saddam even more.
and i hate people who act on propaganda and who don't understand. i see both sides of the argument and i've formed my opinion. but i won't stand for people who form an opinion based on falsehoods.
you are not one of those people
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saddam is the same as george bush. unfairly elected, hungry for power. he has sent his army to 'capture saddam', killing thousands of innocent people along the way. so why shouldn't george bush be taken out of power also?
as i said, some people acting against the war in iraq may not fully understand every detail about saddam or the war itself because of all the propaganda the media feeds us, ;but what they do fully understand is that war is not fucking necessary.
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were we to stand back; when we had the power to stop him...and sleep easy at night knowing the destruction and slavery he embelished upon his people?
or try our best to destroy him. the nature we went to war in was incorrect. the fact we needed to make battle was justified.
people who do not understand do not have the right to have opinions which they spread with malice.
each unto their own in the end. such is the nature of political thought and opinons.
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I don't pretend to know everything.
i have never said that, the protesters do not understand i have merely said i disagree with those that do not understand what they are fighting for.
The boy who cried wolf at least knew what a wolf was.
Whether I agree with the war or not is irrelevant- my comment was merely related to people who think they understand; and form radical opinions based upon it when they don't.
It's not right to dish out opinions based on politics. It's not really fair; and it creates more problems than we need to have.
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That's what makes me angry.
I do not believe that America went about things the right way
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I don't pretend to know everything.
i have never said that, the protesters do not understand i have merely said i disagree with those that do not understand what they are fighting for.
The boy who cried wolf at least knew what a wolf was.
Whether I agree with the war or not is irrelevant- my comment was merely related to people who think they understand; and form radical opinions based upon it when they don't.
It's not right to dish out opinions based on politics. It's not really fair; and it creates more problems than we need to have.
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didn't say i agreed with the nature of the war; which i dont
didn't say anything other than those who fight for the sake of fighting don't deserve the right to fight.
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perhaps you should re-read a few of your previous comments.
first it was that they were fighting when they didn't fully understand, now it's that they are fighting for the sake of fighting??
"I do know I saw so many march and protest..for the sake of just protesting. They didn't give a shit about Iraq; or the war; or Saddam or even America."
--how do you know they were for the sake of just protesting? really, did you go & interview each individual person & ask why they were protesting? they wouldn't go if they didn't give a shit about it. the people creating the protests don't spend money & time just for the sake of protesting.
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i never said you supported the war in iraq or americas actions (although may i requote you;"were we to stand back; when we had the power to stop him[...]or try out best to destroy him). i'm expressing my views on something you posted & commented on. again, if is this a problem perhaps you should disable comments.
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