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I think the calendar is really cute. I'll agree with the above comments that it's far from practical, but I think we can all concur that Nadeshiko is not exactly the day-planner, punctilious type. That's Sonomi's department. Nadeshiko is definitely the kind of woman who would buy an undetailed pocket calendar printed with flowers just because it looked really cute, not because it was sensible. Since it was after Sakura was born, it must have been a very recent purchase on her part before she died. No wonder Fujitaka kept it. But it can't be coincidence that he opened that box and started rummaging through it on Ojii-san's birthday, of all days. Was it intuition? Or did he just happen to remember what day it was?
The bromance between Eriol and Yamazaki - I love it. Eriol spends a lot of time being smug and irritating, but I feel like Yamazaki brings out a playful side that makes him somewhat more palatable.
Urk, this sepia flashback with Touya and his mom. He looks so much like Syaoran at that age! It's a memory that makes me feel all glowy inside. And he looks gorgeous in the present as he plays on the piano. Nakaru's interruption, causing that jarring bang on the keys, is especially painful.
I love this bit with Sakura trotting around and parading her eyeglass-case. It's SO cute.
Touya's face, when Sakura charges up to him and demands he play the organ. Ohmigosh, it makes me crack up. Then again when Sakura knocks Kero straight into the VCR. Though you'd think after all this time he'd know better than to loll around on the floor right where the door is going to open.
I love how Fujitaka tapped his chin and postulated that he could call Sonomi and she'd take care of everything, and then she growls and snaps at him but does it anyway. His smile doesn't so much as twitch. It's too late, Sonomi, Fuji is on to you. He knows that you're in his corner when it comes to Kinomoto v Amamiya, and there's no use in pretending otherwise.
But this bit with Sakura watching from the upstairs window still drives me nuts. She KNOWS Sonomi is her mother's cousin, she KNOWS that Sonomi is just as much granddaughter to this mystery man as her mother was. So she KNOWS that Tomoyo is just as much related to mystery grandpa as she herself is. And it never never never seems to occur to her to ask for an introduction. It doesn't even seem to cross her mind that she could ask, even if she decided she didn't want to after all. WHY????? Doesn't it bother her to know that a man out there who spends (Japanese equivalents of) Thanksgiving and Christmas every year with her own best friend, but (so far as she knows) has never spoken to her or her brother? How can she be so upset that the grandpa figure rejected her father and yet not upset that he still spends every year rejecting them all the time every day?
Grandpa: Thanks for meeting with me like this.
Fujitaka: You called me on my one day off all year, you putz.
I guess we should all be grateful that Grandpa at least gave Touya a present in this scene. In the manga, of which I only read bits and pieces, I'm pretty sure Touya didn't get anything at all. It looks like a clothing box, which true could not possibly hold anything as meaningful as Grandpa giving Nadeshiko's old childhood clothes to Sakura. But maybe it's a super expensive really sharp Dolce suit or something, which would certainly serve its use as Touya prepares to apply for college. It better be top dollar, because I'm sure we can all agree Grandpa owes these kids serious interest.
Okay, watching this park scene again, I have to say I'm with L-chan. It's beautifully drawn, with the pinks flying around and the shimmering tears streaming down Grandpa's cheeks, but I have about zero patience for the dialogue. When I was 20, it was tragic and heartfelt. Now I'm 34, and it's stupid. You're a rich and powerful man who runs corporations and owns mansions. Who's stopping you from getting to know your two descendants? NO ONE. What, are you so very busy? You must be in your sixties at least, maybe seventies, and you know you don't have much longer to live. It has been over a YEAR since you put forth that one pathetic effort into getting to know Sakura in the countryside, which by the way barely counts because she still doesn't know who you are. You have yet to attempt to meet Touya. What, exactly, are you waiting for? Until you're literally on death's doormat? Here are these two kids, one of whom is determinedly doing her best to make sure you're happy (and the other grudgingly helping her out), dropping everything to make you a birthday present just because you're family and they want to feel like they're a part of that family, and you can't even be bothered to pick up the phone and call. Write a letter. Introduce yourself (like, for real this time). Something! Get over yourself, stop whining, and stop punishing a couple of kids who had nothing to do with Nadeshiko's elopement and start treating them at least halfway as decent as you at least treat Sonomi and Tomoyo.
Sheeeeesh.
I don't know what to think of the Heidi outfit. Sakura looks cute in anything, but it's hard to imagine where that will be appropriate attire.
Has anyone else noticed that Grandpa doesn't get listed in the cast credits, either here or #16? It's weird. Are the writers trying to keep his identity some sort of secret or something? What's the big mystery about who voices him?
When I was 20, it was tragic and heartfelt. Now I'm 34, and it's stupid.
I've always thought it was stupid, and it's only gotten stupider. (Isn't that the same swell of music we were supposed to find overwrought and ridiculous in the Dream episode?) Why do the children always have to make the overtures? I see this so much in fiction/tv, the child who has been harboring hurt for years gets guilted into finally reaching out to the adult who abandoned them, and it sucks. Touya's a much better sibling than I would be for going along, but I know he did it for his sister and maybe for his mother, but certainly not for that old man who can stick it.
I love this bit with Sakura trotting around and parading her eyeglass-case.
Is that what it is? All these years I've just thought it was a random little thing she knew how to make. I never realized it was supposed to be something.
In the manga, of which I only read bits and pieces, I'm pretty sure Touya didn't get anything at all.
If I remember right, the manga had Sakura make Gramps Valentine's candy, and so the gift was him reciprocating for White Day, which is why Touya was shut out. It's not an excuse, but it's why, I guess. Still completely shitty of Gramps, given that he could have made Touya's a birthday gift or something.
The box is too small to be anything really nice. It's probably a desk set like in Dead Poets Society or something equally generic and impersonal. Or porn. I've always liked imagining it was porn. What eighteen-year-old boy couldn't make use of that?
If you pay close attention to the park scene, you see a fast shot of Grandpa's lap, where the spectacles are poking out of the case. It definitely wasn't obvious, and I don't think I would have got it except that when I was doing those episode narratives, I had to keep hitting pause every thirty seconds to catch up typing the dialogue.
The box is too small to be anything really nice. It's probably a desk set like in Dead Poets Society or something equally generic and impersonal.
The memory of that hot actor hurling the desk set off the roof made me crack up, because that is exactly the sort of thing Touya would do. He could comment to Yuki on the aerodynamic qualities of the desk set, ruminate on a few physics labs they covered earlier in the semester, then heave back and throw. And if it hit Nakaru in the head on the soccer field, then that's just a bonus.
Or porn. I've always liked imagining it was porn. What eighteen-year-old boy couldn't make use of that? - To that I couldn't do anything but burst out with laughter.
Huh, well I'll be. I saw him holding it, but I never noticed the glasses poking out.
He could comment to Yuki on the aerodynamic qualities of the desk set, ruminate on a few physics labs they covered earlier in the semester, then heave back and throw.
"I wouldn't worry; you'll get another one next year."
I think the calendar is really cute. I'll agree with the above comments that it's far from practical, but I think we can all concur that Nadeshiko is not exactly the day-planner, punctilious type. That's Sonomi's department. Nadeshiko is definitely the kind of woman who would buy an undetailed pocket calendar printed with flowers just because it looked really cute, not because it was sensible. Since it was after Sakura was born, it must have been a very recent purchase on her part before she died. No wonder Fujitaka kept it. But it can't be coincidence that he opened that box and started rummaging through it on Ojii-san's birthday, of all days. Was it intuition? Or did he just happen to remember what day it was?
The bromance between Eriol and Yamazaki - I love it. Eriol spends a lot of time being smug and irritating, but I feel like Yamazaki brings out a playful side that makes him somewhat more palatable.
Urk, this sepia flashback with Touya and his mom. He looks so much like Syaoran at that age! It's a memory that makes me feel all glowy inside. And he looks gorgeous in the present as he plays on the piano. Nakaru's interruption, causing that jarring bang on the keys, is especially painful.
I love this bit with Sakura trotting around and parading her eyeglass-case. It's SO cute.
Touya's face, when Sakura charges up to him and demands he play the organ. Ohmigosh, it makes me crack up. Then again when Sakura knocks Kero straight into the VCR. Though you'd think after all this time he'd know better than to loll around on the floor right where the door is going to open.
I love how Fujitaka tapped his chin and postulated that he could call Sonomi and she'd take care of everything, and then she growls and snaps at him but does it anyway. His smile doesn't so much as twitch. It's too late, Sonomi, Fuji is on to you. He knows that you're in his corner when it comes to Kinomoto v Amamiya, and there's no use in pretending otherwise.
But this bit with Sakura watching from the upstairs window still drives me nuts. She KNOWS Sonomi is her mother's cousin, she KNOWS that Sonomi is just as much granddaughter to this mystery man as her mother was. So she KNOWS that Tomoyo is just as much related to mystery grandpa as she herself is. And it never never never seems to occur to her to ask for an introduction. It doesn't even seem to cross her mind that she could ask, even if she decided she didn't want to after all. WHY????? Doesn't it bother her to know that a man out there who spends (Japanese equivalents of) Thanksgiving and Christmas every year with her own best friend, but (so far as she knows) has never spoken to her or her brother? How can she be so upset that the grandpa figure rejected her father and yet not upset that he still spends every year rejecting them all the time every day?
Grandpa: Thanks for meeting with me like this.
Fujitaka: You called me on my one day off all year, you putz.
I guess we should all be grateful that Grandpa at least gave Touya a present in this scene. In the manga, of which I only read bits and pieces, I'm pretty sure Touya didn't get anything at all. It looks like a clothing box, which true could not possibly hold anything as meaningful as Grandpa giving Nadeshiko's old childhood clothes to Sakura. But maybe it's a super expensive really sharp Dolce suit or something, which would certainly serve its use as Touya prepares to apply for college. It better be top dollar, because I'm sure we can all agree Grandpa owes these kids serious interest.
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Sheeeeesh.
I don't know what to think of the Heidi outfit. Sakura looks cute in anything, but it's hard to imagine where that will be appropriate attire.
Has anyone else noticed that Grandpa doesn't get listed in the cast credits, either here or #16? It's weird. Are the writers trying to keep his identity some sort of secret or something? What's the big mystery about who voices him?
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I've always thought it was stupid, and it's only gotten stupider. (Isn't that the same swell of music we were supposed to find overwrought and ridiculous in the Dream episode?) Why do the children always have to make the overtures? I see this so much in fiction/tv, the child who has been harboring hurt for years gets guilted into finally reaching out to the adult who abandoned them, and it sucks. Touya's a much better sibling than I would be for going along, but I know he did it for his sister and maybe for his mother, but certainly not for that old man who can stick it.
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Is that what it is? All these years I've just thought it was a random little thing she knew how to make. I never realized it was supposed to be something.
In the manga, of which I only read bits and pieces, I'm pretty sure Touya didn't get anything at all.
If I remember right, the manga had Sakura make Gramps Valentine's candy, and so the gift was him reciprocating for White Day, which is why Touya was shut out. It's not an excuse, but it's why, I guess. Still completely shitty of Gramps, given that he could have made Touya's a birthday gift or something.
The box is too small to be anything really nice. It's probably a desk set like in Dead Poets Society or something equally generic and impersonal. Or porn. I've always liked imagining it was porn. What eighteen-year-old boy couldn't make use of that?
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The box is too small to be anything really nice. It's probably a desk set like in Dead Poets Society or something equally generic and impersonal.
The memory of that hot actor hurling the desk set off the roof made me crack up, because that is exactly the sort of thing Touya would do. He could comment to Yuki on the aerodynamic qualities of the desk set, ruminate on a few physics labs they covered earlier in the semester, then heave back and throw. And if it hit Nakaru in the head on the soccer field, then that's just a bonus.
Or porn. I've always liked imagining it was porn. What eighteen-year-old boy couldn't make use of that? - To that I couldn't do anything but burst out with laughter.
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He could comment to Yuki on the aerodynamic qualities of the desk set, ruminate on a few physics labs they covered earlier in the semester, then heave back and throw.
"I wouldn't worry; you'll get another one next year."
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