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Re: Moved from the 2nd thread.

[thisissirius]

I think less so with Chris than with Dustin; Chris isn't around in the last scene, after all.

I do agree about Dustin, though. I've wanted to write fic for ages about this scenario, since I watched the DVD and saw those post-its. That said, I also think that Dustin's relationship with Mark has to be taken into account at this point. Like it or not, Mark's his boss. If he knows about the shares, tells Wardo - and Wardo finds out, goes to Mark etc. then Mark will know it was Dustin that divulged the information. Maybe Mark threatens him?

He has the power to dilute Eduardo's shares - Eduardo, who is Mark's best friend! - and would definitely have the power to dilute Dustin's shares and kick him out of the company if he wanted to. I don't doubt that he could have threatened this very thing. Dustin isn't as important to Mark as Eduardo is - except in his value towards the company itself. Dustin is a brilliant coder, so obviously he has merit - but I think Mark's anger at Eduardo could have been a lot stronger than his need for Dustin? IDK. Just thinking.

HOWEVER. I do agree that sometimes Eduardo forgives Dustin and Chris too easily when he has every right - and should - to be as angry with them as he is with Mark.

Re: Moved from the 2nd thread.

[lynnmathews]

I've wanted to write fic for ages about this scenario You should, I love your stuff! ;) And I love fandom's Dustin, so seeing something focused a little more on how he deals with the whole situation would be cool.

I have no doubt that if Mark deliberately set out to push Eduardo out of the company -- which it's pretty clear from these post its that he did -- that he wouldn't hesitate to threaten to push Dustin out too. I mean, Dustin might be a brilliant coder, but at that point Mark probably could have had his pick of quite a few brilliant coders, yeah?

On of the weird things for me, about the movie itself, was that Mark's motivation in pushing Eduardo out doesn't seem perfectly clear -- I mean, is it jealousy over the club thing, is it epic gay miscommunication (fandom), is it that Mark just needs to be in complete control of fb and Eduardo wasn't cooperating with him so he had to go (sort of my personal theory from the way the movie played out), did he get talked into it by Sean, did he feel like Eduardo was a threat to fb because he kept trying to make it uncool, or did he just think Eduardo was a shitty CFO? (To be perfectly honest, in the move, Eduardo is a really shitty CFO, and I probably would have gotten rid of him, too.) And while I'm pretty sure it was left intentionally vague, it made the movie just a little bit unfulfilling for me! I mean, if they were going to fabricate so much of the movie's plot anyway, I would have preferred that the motivation for the Epic Betrayal be a little bit clearer. It seemed like an odd director's choice.

Re: Moved from the 2nd thread.

[thisissirius]

What I got for the movie was that Mark felt that Eduardo wasn't on board with Facebook's vision - that he was too stubbornly set in his own idea of how Facebook's development should go (i.e. ads) and was looking at it too much from a business perspective. I think Mark felt that Eduardo wasn't even willing to listen to him about why getting advertisers at that point would be a bad idea; and most importantly, that for Eduardo, Facebook didn't come first, which was proved by Eduardo freezing the account (he was willing to put Facebook in danger just to get Mark's attention).

Re: Moved from the 2nd thread.

[thisissirius]

*from the movie

Re: Moved from the 2nd thread.

[thisissirius]

But Dustin wasn't so throughly engrained in the company financially . He was just a shareholder, he wasn't the CF-bloody-O.
From that whole post it exchange, you could get the idea that dustin knew SOMETHING was going on, but he wasn't told explicitly.

On the other topic, the story is supposed to be a CYOA. Sorkin has said that a billion times in interviews; he wants the audience to choose who they think is right, Mark, Eduardo, or the Winklevii (or some combination of the three). Although, IMHO, the movie overwhelmingly comes out to try to make Mark not look like such a dick, they wanted the motive for his dickishness to be unclear, because if it were completely clear, it'd be harder to take his side.
By trying to sort of make us think that maybe mark called the cops on Sean, that maybe Mark felt bad about kicking Eduardo out for any of those reasons (gay based, crappy CFO based, and as most hinted, jealousy based), it causes the audience to create an opinion. That's the mark of a great movie, imho.