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this is facebook related, something we ALL know mark takes seriously. he would have read the contracts.
it's possible he was, not hoping exactly, but well yeah, hoping eduardo would see the clause - and what he was trying to do - and confront him, getting everything out in the open. thus, getting eduardo back for the freezing of the accounts.
(this is all plausible within the confines of the movie; mark's already proved he can be a dick when he's angry with someone - look at what he did/created with his anger at erica.)
while it's possible that mark didn't know before eduardo signed, i think it's highly unlikely. the way mark behaves - that scene where mark's asking him to come back for the party? where he says yeah in this voice that, i dont know, just goes WHAT for me. i think he knows exactly what he's doing then - i think he knows exactly what he's setting eduardo up for and maybe that's the first time he really realises what's going to happen.
(i still believe he wants eduardo to notice and honestly doesn't believe eduardo will get as angry as he does)
there's one last thing. i know you said not taking any outside scenes into account but i think you kind of have to when you see this on the computer on dustin's desk;
mark knew.
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That's what you get from never ever ever handwriting anything ever. *looks surreptitiously around* what?
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This makes me wonder, though -- I mean, most of the fics we see have Eduardo remaining friendly with Dustin and Chris while estranged from Mark, or maybe Mark 'gets custody' of them but Eduardo accepts them right back into his life after making up with Mark. But, honestly, this makes it pretty clear that Dustin, at least, knew as well, and didn't make any attempt to stop it. And, sure, you might be able to excuse that (Mark was his boss, after all) enough to be able to not hate him, but who would want to actually stay friends with a guy who made not attempt to warn you about something like that? (Within the context of the movie, that is -- Mark and Eduardo being best friends, and within fandom, of the four of them being pretty close and of Eduardo being in love with Mark.)
Seems like Eduardo would probably have some justified anger at Dustin and Chris as well, and even if he did make up with Mark, would he really just snap right back into being besties with the wonder boys
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I do agree about Dustin, though. I've wanted to write fic for ages about this scenario, since I watched the DVD and saw those post-its. That said, I also think that Dustin's relationship with Mark has to be taken into account at this point. Like it or not, Mark's his boss. If he knows about the shares, tells Wardo - and Wardo finds out, goes to Mark etc. then Mark will know it was Dustin that divulged the information. Maybe Mark threatens him?
He has the power to dilute Eduardo's shares - Eduardo, who is Mark's best friend! - and would definitely have the power to dilute Dustin's shares and kick him out of the company if he wanted to. I don't doubt that he could have threatened this very thing. Dustin isn't as important to Mark as Eduardo is - except in his value towards the company itself. Dustin is a brilliant coder, so obviously he has merit - but I think Mark's anger at Eduardo could have been a lot stronger than his need for Dustin? IDK. Just thinking.
HOWEVER. I do agree that sometimes Eduardo forgives Dustin and Chris too easily when he has every right - and should - to be as angry with them as he is with Mark.
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I have no doubt that if Mark deliberately set out to push Eduardo out of the company -- which it's pretty clear from these post its that he did -- that he wouldn't hesitate to threaten to push Dustin out too. I mean, Dustin might be a brilliant coder, but at that point Mark probably could have had his pick of quite a few brilliant coders, yeah?
On of the weird things for me, about the movie itself, was that Mark's motivation in pushing Eduardo out doesn't seem perfectly clear -- I mean, is it jealousy over the club thing, is it epic gay miscommunication (fandom), is it that Mark just needs to be in complete control of fb and Eduardo wasn't cooperating with him so he had to go (sort of my personal theory from the way the movie played out), did he get talked into it by Sean, did he feel like Eduardo was a threat to fb because he kept trying to make it uncool, or did he just think Eduardo was a shitty CFO? (To be perfectly honest, in the move, Eduardo is a really shitty CFO, and I probably would have gotten rid of him, too.) And while I'm pretty sure it was left intentionally vague, it made the movie just a little bit unfulfilling for me! I mean, if they were going to fabricate so much of the movie's plot anyway, I would have preferred that the motivation for the Epic Betrayal be a little bit clearer. It seemed like an odd director's choice.
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From that whole post it exchange, you could get the idea that dustin knew SOMETHING was going on, but he wasn't told explicitly.
On the other topic, the story is supposed to be a CYOA. Sorkin has said that a billion times in interviews; he wants the audience to choose who they think is right, Mark, Eduardo, or the Winklevii (or some combination of the three). Although, IMHO, the movie overwhelmingly comes out to try to make Mark not look like such a dick, they wanted the motive for his dickishness to be unclear, because if it were completely clear, it'd be harder to take his side.
By trying to sort of make us think that maybe mark called the cops on Sean, that maybe Mark felt bad about kicking Eduardo out for any of those reasons (gay based, crappy CFO based, and as most hinted, jealousy based), it causes the audience to create an opinion. That's the mark of a great movie, imho.
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