Jan 24, 2005 13:49
Tim McMahon
Tim has been around a long time. Seriously, a long time. He's seen kids come and go, he's seen bands start out strong and edge, and finish weak and broken. Through it all, he has remained the same guy. Unchanged, for the most part. A dude who loves straight edge, and hardcore. Read on, and learn a thing or two.
1. You got married. That's cool. Does married life ever conflict with the hardcore lifestyle? Have you ever had to buy ottomans instead of insted test presses?
So far married life hasn't conflicted with my hardcore lifestyle at all. You have to understand, having a wife that's into hardcore as well helps that situation out quite a bit. Before we got married, I talked to her about me doing a new band and about how I'll be playing out as much as possible, so she's understanding. As long as I can balance the hardcore lifestyle along with the household responsibilities, everything will be just fine. No, ottoman's have been purchased over any hardcore test pressings, at least not yet. I think we have all the ottoman's we need, the test pressings and rare records can keep on coming.
2. What's up with the new band? Members? Motivation? Message?
Well, the new band is called FACE THE ENEMY. The members are: Tim-Vocals, Ken-Guitar, Ed-Bass, Graham-Guitar and Al-Drums. We've sorta been having revolving drummers, so I'm not sure if Al's in the band permanently or not, but he's in the band now. As far as motivation and message, to me it's simply about my love for hardcore and to keep putting out a respectable representation of what I feel straight edge is all about. I've been doing hardcore bands for the past 12 to 13 years and it's something I completely enjoy doing. Everything from recording to putting the records together to doing the t shirts to actually climbing up on a stage and playing my heart out. There truly is no better feeling than writing lyrics about subjects I feel strongly about, then playing the songs in front of a crowd and watching the crowd respond. Be the best person you can be, enjoy your life to the fullest extent, live a healthy and responsible life and make a positive change, that would be a sum up of the message.
3. Livewire records said that day 3 of posi fest 2002 was the day, "hardcore woke up." Do you really feel this way? Didn't over 2/3 of the kids who attended day 1 and day 2 leave before day 3?
Honestly, the only day any of us at Livewire could comment on was the only day we were there, which was day 3. I think Gordo over at Impact Fanzine might have commented on day 3 and might have attended day 1, but he's not Livewire records. Weather 2/3 of the people who were there for day 1 and 2 left or not, I have no idea. I was preparing for my wedding on day 1 and getting married on day 2, so I had no way of being there for either of those days. I know day 3 was an incredible day and I know that quite a few of us shared a very special feeling from that day, but I can't say that feeling was shared by all nor do I really care. I've learned that you can't please everybody and there's no use in even trying, so just say what you feel and ignore the critics.
4. Any new bands out there that you really enjoy? Any bands that aren't on livewire, or have old members of NYHC bands in them?
Yeah there are definitely a few newer bands out there that I enjoy, besides the bands on Livewire and the bands consisting of old NYHC guys. I think Count Me Out is a great band, I think Jesuseater is a phenomenal new band, I like Kill The Messenger quite a bit and I'm sure there are others, but those three come to mind. Over the past 16 years or so that I've been listening to hardcore, I've definitely become a lot pickier about the bands that I listen to. A lot of the times when I hear a new band, I'm just not hearing the same thing as I did years back and I'm just not feeling what I did years back. For me it seems like most of the newer hardcore bands that pop up seem to have disregarded the roots of hardcore or just gotten to be a very watered down version of great bands from the past. I'm not saying all new bands are like this, because there are a good amount of new bands that I think really carry the torch well, but there are also quite a few newer bands that just don't interest me.
5. If a kid came up to you, and said, "I'm new to hardcore, I've never been to a show, and the only CD I own is Youth of Today's break down the walls," what would you do? How would you help this young kid? What LPs would you point him to?
I've actually experienced this, maybe not this exact situation, but something rather similar for sure. I have a young cousin, I guess he's about 20 years old now, but years back he started asking me about the hardcore music that I listened to. For the most part he was your average metal head type, very into Metallica, Guns & Roses and stuff like that, but he had a slight interest in hardcore. He knew of bands like the Misfits, mainly because Metallica has done Misfits covers and he took interest in some bands like that. I took him to a couple of Hands Tied shows and he totally loved the whole experience. I remember taking him to a Hands Tied show that we played with Burn and Better Than A Thousand, when he left that show he was asking me all kinds of questions. I pointed him in the direction of Revelation records, told him to pick up anything by Youth Of Today, BOLD, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, Chain Of Strength and bands of that style and that era. Not too long after, he was coming to me and telling me about this BOLD record he bought and this Youth Of Today record that he found and even a DYS CD that he tracked down and most importantly, he loved all of it. At this point I've explained to him the evolution of hardcore, the bands that started it all, the bands that perfected it all and the bands that continue to keep that fire burning.
6. Before marriage, who's collection was better: yours or Traci's? Is your collection combined now? Can the combined collection rival the rev vault?
I think we both had our fare share of good records, but I'm going to have to give Traci the edge. She's a couple of years older than me, had a little more money than me and had access to a few more records and shows than I did. As a result, she always had one up on me in the record collecting department. Once we married, we combined our collections and she pretty much handed everything over to me. If I wanted to trade something and it was one of her original pieces, I'd have to check with her, but I'd most likely be the only one adding to the collection and maintaining it. As far as our collection rivaling the Revelation Vault, obviously I'd think they would have a better Revelation collection or at least a more complete one, but as far as over all collection goes, I think we have that vault beat.
7. Speaking of collections: who has more shoes, you or Traci? How many nikes/jordans do you own? Where did the shoe collection all start?
I think Traci definitely has more shoes than me, mostly because she holds on to every sneaker or shoe she gets and never throws anything out. I have about 15 pairs of sneakers that stay in a somewhat steady rotation, most of them are retroed Nike's and Air Jordan's. I have random sneakers packed away, that I don't wear anymore or don't fit me and I guess at some point I'll start tossing them up on Ebay, but I don't really count any of those. Because I rotate most of my sneakers so often, they all seem to stay in pretty good condition, which is why I don't really have to keep buying replacement sneakers. The only time I end up buying something new is if Nike or Adidas or whoever remakes an old style of sneaker that I've always loved. When they do that, it's hard for me to resist and I think that's because I've got that record collector mentality. With records, when you see something and you know it's going to be rare or be out of press soon, you buy it, for me, it's the same with sneakers. I feel like if I don't buy it now, it won't be around long enough for me to buy it later. I think the idea of collecting sneakers, for me, started with the remaking of the old Air Jordans. I remember wanting the original Air Jordan 1's so bad when they came out, but my parents just wouldn't buy them for me. I guess they thought they were ugly or too expensive or whatever, but I just know I wanted them. I skated back when the original Air Jordan's were released and I remember all of the guy's on the Bones Brigade wearing Air Jordan's. I wanted to be like those guys and I wanted to dress like those guys, so naturally I wanted those sneakers. Then not too much later I picked up Youth Of Today's "Break Down The Walls" and of course all of those guys were wearing the original Air Jordan's, so that made me want them even more. Finally in 1994, when Nike decided to reissue the original Air Jordan 1's, I had my chance to buy them so of course I did. As time went on, Nike continued to reissue a lot of the other Air Jordan's, so I bought them as well. The Air Jordan 3 and 4 were two of my favorites, so when those were re-released I made sure to pick them up. Over time, Nike, along with a few other sneaker companies have realized that there actually is a demand for these older style of sneakers that were originally released some 15 years ago and as they keep reissuing good sneakers that I like, I keep buying them, it's that simple.
8. Lately, it seems that old edge dudes are dropping like flies. What is your take on edge breakers? How do you feel about running like thieves covering old straight edge Bold songs? Or songs that could be considered sxe songs.
I don't think older kids breaking the edge is anything new or anything that's happening particularly lately, it's something that I've watched go on from day one. I remember when I first started to hear about people breaking the edge, I was in complete disbelief, it just didn't seem possible to me. I guess I just figured that if somebody thought enough about standing against alcohol and drugs, that they always would, but I was very naive back then. I started getting very angry and upset when I heard about people falling off, but like I said, it's something I've encountered throughout my entire hardcore career, so to say, so it's expected at this point. The only person I really have faith in and hold complete trust in, is myself, otherwise I expect the worst and hope for the best. As for Running Like Thieves doing BOLD songs that are considered to be "Straight Edge song," I don't see that. Running Like Thieves have done a few different BOLD songs, but none of them being Straight Edge themed. I've seen them do the song, "Running like thieves" and "Wise up," neither which are Straight Edge songs and never were.
Some people might think "Wise up" is a Straight Edge song, but it never was intended to be that, it was always about the wrong of fighting. If you're looking for me to say anything negative about Running Like Thieves [Ed. Note: Not our intention], you're talking to the wrong guy, Running Like Thieves is easily my favorite newer band.
9. What makes New Jersey so special to so many kids? What made and is currently making the Jersey scene strong?
I think what made New Jersey a strong scene, were bands like Vision, Turning Point, Release and then later on, bands like Mouthpiece, Ressurection, Lifetime and then even later, Hands Tied and Floorpunch. New Jersey also use to have great venues to do shows, places like City Gardens in Trenton was the states hardcore/punk mecca, then Middlesex County College took on the duty of doing consistent shows once City Gardens folded. When shows weren't happening at the large venues, Jersey kids were constantly putting together shows in VFW halls, basements, churches, schools or where ever they could get the space. I think for a while we just had everything going right for us, good bands, good kids, good venues and an all around cool vibe. As for today's New Jersey Hardcore scene, it's definitely not the same scene as it was just four years ago, quite a bit has changed. I don't see a quarter the amount of kids showing up to shows, there aren't really any headlining bands that bring a nice draw and there isn't a whole lot of consistency with where shows are being held. I credit any kids that are trying and putting forth the effort to keep things going, I know there are a good handful of kids that seem to be putting shows on as often as possible, but the scene is no whereas large as it was. Hardcore moves in cycles, I'm sure things will pick up and when it does, for the kids that stuck to it, it will be worth the time.
10. Styles in hardcore fashion come and go. What are two fashions you are glad to see gone, and some that you will keep for a long time? For instance: bad = big beads ...
Two styles that I'm glad to see gone ... one would be the huge jean wearing, long hair parted in the center raver looking kids and the other would be the dirty and unkempt hair, mod style kids. I'm not sure if the mod look is completely out or not, but I'm sure it's days are numbered and when it's gone, believe me, I'll be happy. As for the styles that I like seeing, the short, well kept and clean cut hair of the classic late eighties straight edge kid and cargo pants/shorts with a nice hardcore shirt. Hooded Champion sweatshirts are essential as are a cool pair of sneakers and a X Swatch, those are clothes I'll be wearing till I'm shriveled up, old and gray. If you want to get a good look at the "Do's" of hardcore style, check out the Youth Of Today promo pictures from "We're Not In This Alone," one word... perfection. If you're not down with that, to each his own. When it comes down to it, what really matters is what's in your heart and not what's decorating the body, looks can be deceiving.
11. If your house was on fire, what two objects would you save?
Well, besides my wife and my dog, I'd have to save Schism issue 7 with the Project X 7" and my BOLD "Speak Out "test pressing. Obviously there would be a million other things that I'd be heart broken over loosing, BOLD "Join The Fight" shirt, any Schism shirts, my JUDGE "Chung King" test pressing or the regular Chung King record in general, my Air Jordan III's and my Nike Air Revolutions, all my Boiling Point zines, that's all stuff that I love and would be greatly upset about loosing.
12. What's the funniest tour story that involves mouthpiece or hands tied?
There are seriously dozens of funny tour stories, but one that sticks in my mind and that I can think of off hand, would be from Mouthpiece's 1995 summer tour. Jeff Newman, who later went on to play in Better Than A Thousand and In My Eyes, was our roadie and designated van driver. One day as we're driving through some southern state, a couple of us pick up a few porno magazines off of the van floor and start ripping the photos of peoples assholes out of the magazines. Before we know it, we have a pile of asshole photos and we decide that these assholes must be taped to Jeff's hat. While this is going on, Jeff is driving, so he has no idea what we are scheming. Carefully and lightly we start placing these assholes all over Jeff's hat, next thing you know, Jeff has close to 30 assholes all over his hat and he has no idea. Finally we pull into a restaurant to grab some food and just like the rest of us, Jeff hop's out of the van and into the restaurant and starts waiting inline to order his food. At this point we are all laughing our asses off, here's this kid standing in line, with people all around him and his hat is completely covered is photos of assholes! Jeff starts laughing along with us, but doesn't really know why we're laughing, so he ask, "What's so funny?". One of us in the band decided that the joke was up and instead of risking some little kid walking in to the restaurant and asking his daddy what was all over that boys hat, we filled Jeff in. Jeff quickly ripped off the hat and tore off each and every asshole and tossed them all over the floor. I guess you just really had to be there, but to see all of these individually torn out assholes all over this kids hat, it was just funny as all hell.
13. Any final thoughts? Thanks.
Thanks for the interview and thanks to everybody over at How's Your Edge, for doing a cool site. Stay straight edge, listen to BOLD and keep an eye out for the latest releases on Livewire Records and check out Face The Enemy.
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