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[governorkang]

Le Prefecture De Police was an impressive building, but that wasn't the reason it had been chosen by the members of the civilian council; it had been chosen because none of the Councilmen (and women) had any ties to it, making it neutral ground. There was also the potential for everyone to have an office with a desk in the same general vicinity if

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[governorkang]

He took a breath, "So you can see that I've had more than my share of experience with clones, and why I'm uncomfortable with the idea of anymore like Mei-Xing's being created. However, we must remember that this clone already exists, and that in this particular case, it will never do anything more than lie in one spot, unconscious. It will never speak, or even open its eyes of its own volition. This was done purposely, yes, but the point is, and one that Mr. Luthor made as well, that it is not sentient, and that is what is important. It is that lack of sentience, despite its physical appearance, that makes it unequal."

"I want to make it clear: while I am of the opinion that Mei-Xing should be able to keep the clone as an organ donor, I am against any further clones being created in such a manner. In any manner, really. Once it can no longer provide any parts she may need for her magic to operate properly, Stacy can then grow them and keep them in storage. If it is decided that she is not allowed to keep it, then I would rather it be destroyed than left hooked to the machines."

And then the bozak paused.

"There is one other thing we must remember, regarding Schmuz, Iniss, and yeerks as a species. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe yeerks need an organic brain to interface with, so creating an inorganic body for them to inhabit won't suffice, unless an organic brain is cloned. That goes right back to the issue currently at hand; the decision we make about Mei-Xing's clone will affect their chances at having a body to call their own, without sharing or taking over another person's. We may, in an effort to ensure that every sentient aboard this ship is guaranteed a body of their own without infringing on the rights of other sentients, have to allow things that we are not comfortable with. It's a difficult choice to make, and no matter what we choose, someone is going to be unhappy. Unfortunately, that comes with our job."

[itsaboutaction]

Superman listened to what the other Councilmen had to say. So far, it was pretty much split. He let out a sigh as he went to speak.

"I'm going to admit something - I've never dealt with this sort of thing. At least not in this sort of magnitude. Cloning and Kryptonian DNA is hard. Before and after Kon, I've dealt with clones of me that literally disintegrated in mind and body." He was referring to the first two Bizarros that his Luthor had created. All that so Luthor could have something of him. "As it stood, though, they were still living and I had to protect them from both themselves and those around them."

"However, this isn't the case. What we're dealing with here, if what we heard is right, is nothing more than an organ bank. And that, I feel, we can't allow to keep going. As everyone's said, Stacy can take care of her needs, she doesn't need to use something this inhumane. At the same time, though..." he let out a sigh and sat back. "...I am abstaining from deciding what becomes of the clone itself."

Sorry, Kon. Sorry, Fate. Getting involved in this from the get-go has made him a bit weary of wanting to make a choice.

[governorkang]

Kang quirked an eyebrow ridge, "Inhumane, Councilor?"

[itsaboutaction]

Superman looked at Kang and noticed that he tread a mark he wasn't supposed to.

"My apologies." he said. "Allow me to rephrase it: something this cruel."

Yeah, this was going to be tougher than he thought. There was WAY too many toes on this ship that could be stepped on.

[lackofdarkwings]

"Regardless of race," said Matt, finally coming out of his meditative pose and giving Kal and Kang a look, "This is a decision that makes up the whole of the council and we shouldn't quibble over things such as our genetic makeup."

Sitting up further, the young man finally seemed to have made a decision on his own opinion. "While in truth we have a comatose clone which will never regain sentience, and no matter how strongly we feel towards certain aspects of it, the fact remains that what we decide here will also impact the Yeerk decision."

"As such, after pondering options, I've been thinking on the matter while everyone offered opinions, and I will now offer my own on the matter."

Matt took a breath and let it out slowly. "I agree with Kang on both matters, as such Mei Xing should not keep the clone in the best interests of preserving rights of the people involved in this conflict and full clones should not be created in the sake of equal rights. However, we should also look into viable options for the Yeerks and their hosts. As such..." And Matt sighed. "As such, I believe we should ensure the protection of their interests, as well as the crew. I believe we should support the clone on life support until the time comes that it passes from the state it is in, but look into creating an artificial form for the Yeerks to inhabit, thus, using the clone for study in a model that could benefit both host and Yeerk and the interests of those involved."

[escapednothlit]

Elfangor had listened quietly, having only returned very shortly before the meeting. Really, he was coming in mostly blind. He knew of one of the issues to be addressed, but that was later.

And listening now...

< There are races in the universe that depend upon clones for their own survival, to continue their race. I would never condone the life of one who is sentient being destroyed, but when there is no sentience, that is a different matter. >

He paused. It was true. For the moment, they have not come across the issue, but the Pod Caverns and the Universe were quite vast. At some point, there may very well be a time that a person would come from a species where clones weren't a convenience, but a necessity.

< I have faith in the crew to be able to tell the difference and being able to defend their crew mates should someone not be able to. Even for the emotional side, the plan suggested for the Yeerks came from one of the younger crew members who, herself, is a clone. >

< I would not condone this to be a common practice. However, for the rare occasions it is an issue, it should be a viable option given that it's monitored heavily to be sure there is no harm to what could be a sentient creature. But in this instance, should Mei Xing be able to gain from Stacy as she can from the clone, then it should either be given a 'merciful' death or kept on life support. If she can't and it's the only truly effective way to protect her sentient life, then it should be used for it's intended purposes. >