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Sep 15, 2009 18:59

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Out of curiosity, what purpose would speaking with the apparent 'scientists' do for the people here?

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[Text] 1_resonance September 15 2009, 18:55:30 UTC
Aside from making tempers flare unneccessarily high?

Absolutely nothing.

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[Text] trackingdata September 15 2009, 18:58:26 UTC
Then that raises the question of why people talk with them in the first place.

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[Text] 1_resonance September 15 2009, 19:09:19 UTC
From my perspective:

Some people seem to want to work with them to make life easier for everyone. Unfortunately, that requires compromise, and the scientists don't seem to want to do it.

Other people seem to like to antagonize them. Unfortunately, this just fuels the scientists' reasoning for not wanting to reach a compromise.

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[Text] trackingdata September 15 2009, 19:12:17 UTC
"Make life easier for everyone." They could make life easier by themselves if they were more organised, based on what i've been told of the community.

I'm going to assume that no one truly knows what those people are actually doing and what they are capable of.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Zima 1_resonance September 15 2009, 19:14:18 UTC
You'd assume correctly.

Between you and I, though, I don't think even they know what they are doing.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Aya trackingdata September 15 2009, 19:16:04 UTC
I see.

It certainly seems that way, they don't want to explain anything after all.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Zima 1_resonance September 15 2009, 19:18:38 UTC
You would think that if they were capable of compressing time and space, that it would be easy for them to understand how important compromise is in such a delicate situation such as this.

Not only do I think they don't know, I think they're afraid. Of what, I'm not sure. But it's only natural to fear what is unknown.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Aya trackingdata September 15 2009, 19:23:01 UTC
I believe the woman from before referred to everyone as 'Outsiders'; I assume that this is in general a case of 'Them' versus 'Us'. Compromise may not be available.

Perhaps they're afraid of 'Outsiders', protection matters and what should happen if they fail to correct this.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Zima 1_resonance September 15 2009, 19:28:46 UTC
From my experience, compromise is always available if someone is willing to put aside their pride and aim for it. But I suppose the same cannot be said for everyone.

I'm not going to lie: I'm afraid of that myself. Not because I plan on trying to lead an attack on the hands that are essentially feeding us, but because of the consequences of one, should another occur. There are some 'Outsiders' here with very short fuses.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Aya trackingdata September 15 2009, 19:34:28 UTC
Something tells me that the group inside aren't truly wanting a compromise.

It would end with nothing if they attacked, on the other hand sitting and waiting may end the same.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Zima 1_resonance September 15 2009, 19:37:51 UTC
...which is unfortunate. Some of us 'Outsiders' genuinely do.

Myself, included.

'Nothing' can't be the result of both. It can't. At least... I sincerely hope not. To me, that seems like having your cake and eating it too.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Aya trackingdata September 15 2009, 19:43:45 UTC
The 'Insiders' hold all the cards.

They hold the power to remain silent if attacked just like they have the power to put off speaking if left alone.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Zima 1_resonance September 15 2009, 19:48:42 UTC
Precisely. I'd like to think of it as a game of chess.

[The rest of the text is hesitant.]

It's irrational to remain silent if attacked. Unless they want to be attacked. Which is still irrational.

...isn't it?

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Aya trackingdata September 15 2009, 19:51:50 UTC
Chess. Or poker. Either would fit.

If you were attacked, you might hit back but the chances are high that you wouldn't say a thing of importance.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Zima 1_resonance September 15 2009, 20:02:04 UTC
I've never been one to play chess. Or poker.

My initial instincts would be to shoot first and ask questions later. Experience has taught me otherwise.

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[Text] - strikes visible only to Aya trackingdata September 15 2009, 20:07:30 UTC
Perhaps now is the time to learn.

Assume that Scientists' experience in telling too much resulted in this mess. Would you speak a word to anyone about the topic?

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