It's very interesting you describe "how even the tiniest thing around us prove that God exists". I use the same invocation to talk to atheists on 'the meaning of life'. As I study more to become a UU Minister myself, I revel in the ways different belief systems are alike. While you say the little things are why God exists, I say the little things give us reason to live, joy and rejoice. Without evoking the concept of God, I can help others realize the wonders of our earth are worth respecting and loving, and can the path of higher meaning. I found this quote from Freeman Dyson:
I believe we are here to some purpose, that the purpose has something to do with the future, and that it transcends altogether the limits of our present knowledge and understanding... If you like, you can call the transcendent purpose God. If it is God, it is a Socinian God, inherent in the universe and growing in power and knowledge as the universe unfolds. Our minds are not only expressions of its purpose but are also contributions to its growth.
I have to admit, I had to give up on the Left Behind series after two and a half books. Two things about it drove me up a wall. The first was that the Catholics were too stupid to figure out what was going on (oh, the Pope made it too heaven, but that's just because he was making concessions to become 'more protestant'). The second was that the Jewish guy, after years of research (and tens of thousands of years of history) suddenly comes to his Eureka moment of "OMG! The Christians were right all along! 1111!!elventy!"
I should give them another try sometime, and read them with a less critical eye. Perhaps I would enjoy them more!
No, run and hide instead.tracerooJune 7 2007, 21:11:03 UTC
If those were the things you disliked about the early books, believe me when I say there is nothing for you in the next 12! The suppositions only become more deeply mired in fundamentalism, the elevnty moments get far more out of hand, and the story, such as it is, just gets worse. Book 14 took me 2 years to finish. I could only read a few pages at a time before putting it back down again.
Re: You're a really great person.waywalkerJune 7 2007, 21:57:53 UTC
You're certainly not deaf *smile* I would simply quote, "When the student is ready, the master will appear."
Also, you don't seem to be without faith, and understanding. Perhaps God does speak to you and you do not recognize it. Are you spiritually balanced, or spiritually happy? Do you have an urgent need to find out who God is, and bring him into your life? I believe you are already in a place where God speaks to you in a way that you understand. This is evidenced by your balance. What thoughts come to your mind if you think about spirituality?
Of course, a year from now we may look back on this as the first time you began to study the book of Mormon and that this faith is how God speaks to you at that time. Who knows? You're looking and listening, and that's what counts.
I agree! God is in everything. All things, to me, also have a spirit. I have spoken to trees, rocks, animals and I have learned something new from each of them. Whether they -are- God to me would be debatable, but the thought that God exists in everything is a wonderful one.
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I believe we are here to some purpose, that the purpose has something to do with the future, and that it transcends altogether the limits of our present knowledge and understanding... If you like, you can call the transcendent purpose God. If it is God, it is a Socinian God, inherent in the universe and growing in power and knowledge as the universe unfolds. Our minds are not only expressions of its purpose but are also contributions to its growth.
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I have to admit, I had to give up on the Left Behind series after two and a half books. Two things about it drove me up a wall. The first was that the Catholics were too stupid to figure out what was going on (oh, the Pope made it too heaven, but that's just because he was making concessions to become 'more protestant'). The second was that the Jewish guy, after years of research (and tens of thousands of years of history) suddenly comes to his Eureka moment of "OMG! The Christians were right all along! 1111!!elventy!"
I should give them another try sometime, and read them with a less critical eye. Perhaps I would enjoy them more!
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You're not missing anything.
Traceroo
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Also, you don't seem to be without faith, and understanding. Perhaps God does speak to you and you do not recognize it. Are you spiritually balanced, or spiritually happy? Do you have an urgent need to find out who God is, and bring him into your life? I believe you are already in a place where God speaks to you in a way that you understand. This is evidenced by your balance. What thoughts come to your mind if you think about spirituality?
Of course, a year from now we may look back on this as the first time you began to study the book of Mormon and that this faith is how God speaks to you at that time. Who knows? You're looking and listening, and that's what counts.
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Thank you,
T.
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Thus I say, Namaste. *smile*
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