The Liberal Conservatives Are Coming...

[torygirl_no10]

Watching David Cameron over these past few years, in a way, has helped clarify my own political position. One cannot watch someone political career progress, and not wonder about their own ideology, particularly when one finds themselves agreeing occasionally with the enemy

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[haylon101]

I agree and disagree with you. I want gay marriage and adoption fully legalised. I want stemcell research and cloning to be properly funded. I want civil liberties to mean something again and I want people to be seen for what they can do not what they are. This, I have been told makes me a Liberal Conservative.

However, I also want to see the size of the state rolled back and the individual given more freedom from the State. I want us to pull back powers from Europe maybe out all together. I want unions to stop fucking everything up and just except that the private sector is the back bone to society. I want low taxes and I want the Human Rights Act abolished and replaced with a Bill of British Rights. This apparently makes me a Rightwinger/Thaterite.
The problem with labels is that people then feel they can't move beyond the confines of it's definition.

If you look at their voting records George is more old skool Liberal than David however I have heard from someone who knows George that he's a lot more rightwing than people think. But he will do wantever it takes to achieve power.

The public's view should be represented in the House and right now our country is all for leaving the EU, bringing back hanging and legalising cannabis. They're a funny lot... ;)

[torygirl_no10]

I agree with a lot of what you say, but that's my main point.

My generation, the ones currently in school or university who are only just stretching their political wings for example, will be the ones to move fully out of the labels of Thatcherism and Liberal Conservatives, really. I believe in a lot of what you believe, that we should roll back the state, get out of the EU and restore justice to civil liberties, and I want the individual freed from State intervention unless they NEED it, as a last resort.

I suppose my point really is that there are still a lot of Tory MPs uncomfortable with gay rights, which is the biggie, like for example Theresa May, but unless the party can move beyond that, we're not going to survive. I don't see politics shifting back to the way it was during the 1980s, even IF we achieve a Conservative majority in 2015 *crosses fingers*. David and George started this process, but it's going to be up to us to continue it, to combat the left, supposedly progressive parties. It'll be the new generation, the MPs of 2020, 2025 and 2030 that will be able to get beyond those labels entirely, of Thatcherite and Liberal.

Interesting about George, I did read somewhere he is more right-wing than many think, not just as a vehement Eurosceptic as the majority are, but on issues such as the legalisation of drugs. But in essence, he is right to do what he does. It's all very well harping on about ideology and substance while in Opposition, but the electorate doesn't want that, it wants clear-cut, viable solutions to our problems and it really doesn't care how we get there, not really. I personally think that it's obvious the current system is not working, when it comes to the drugs trade, and perhaps we should try something else, no matter how much I hate the idea of legalising cannabis.

Suppose that makes me a Liberal Thatcherite Conservative...;P And Proud Of It Baby!