Communication

Oct 07, 2013 17:19

Dutch (adj) - A dangerous combination of ignorance and arrogance resulting in foolish delusions of grandeur.

Do you speak Dutch or ONLY English?Because there are only two languages in the world, right ( Read more... )

dutch, rant, русский, wojtek, polski, holland

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tediousandbrief October 7 2013, 18:35:09 UTC
I have a feeling a lot of Americans actually don't realize that Welsh is a language, let alone one that is still spoken. We can sadly be very insular in that way.

When did you start learning those languages? I'm curious. We had a small class on a foreign language pre-4th grade, but that was just a few days and was an extra curricular.

We didn't get into foreign languages until high school and it was always optional. When I started we were offered Spanish, German, and French (with live teachers) or Russian and Japanese (with apparently a recording and not live teachers). The school in Crown Point also offered Latin.

I'm curious, how are Americans being ignorant sweet rather than arrogant? If you have any situations you remember about it, can you share. Often I see Americans upset when you have to dial "1 for English" or complaining that if you're going to live here you should know English.

The Polish course work is slow. I got through the first two or three programs of Rosetta Stone, but started the next one and stopped it when I realized I was just a bit too tired that night. I probably haven't looked at it in a few weeks with my weekends having been pretty busy. Hopefully I can check it out this week sometime. We were just starting on colors.

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toppertje October 8 2013, 14:10:24 UTC
I personally cut American people a lot of slack if they are unaware of Wales and our language, you may well be quite an insular nation, but you are a HUGE nation too.

There are people here in Europe that have never heard of Wales or know of our language and frankly these people have no excuse. Not to mention that some European countries call the United Kingdom England and refuse to accept that Wales is not a part of England. Especially the Dutch.

My parents spoke Welsh and English at home but my sister and I went to English speaking schools where Welsh was taught as a second language (rather than learning Maths in Welsh)

This is why Americans are sweet.... A Dutch person will look me in the eye and tell me Wales is NOT a country and does NOT have a language, when I explain to them they are wrong they refuse to accept it and walk away thinking I am an idiot. Americans on the other hand are open to learn new things and if there is anything they don't know, rather than argue their way out of it, they apologise, 100% of the time.

I started learning French when I was 11 and German when I was 14, I actually dropped Welsh so I could take up German much to the dismay of my family.

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tediousandbrief October 8 2013, 14:54:52 UTC
I sometimes forget that Scotland and Wales are their own nations within the UK and probably have sometimes referred to the UK as England. The difference isn't stressed that much in the US, unfortunately.

How could someone just say "no, Welsh is not a language!?" Like....I don't get that!

I'm very impressed by your language skills and how young you were when you started learning. I struggled so much with learning German in high school and then in college. (And, also, every time I've heard Welsh it sounds awesome.)

On the subject of Wales being their own nation, what are your thoughts on the upcoming votes for Scotland and Welsh independence? (They aren't covered much/at all in the US.)

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toppertje October 8 2013, 16:03:18 UTC
They call Welsh "just a dialect of English". Allow me to translate that for you into Welsh.

Nad yw'r Gymraeg yn dafodiaith Saesneg.

So you can see the similarities :/

I wonder if anyone ever asks English people if they want to become independent from us? On the subject of Scotland, I don't really have an opinion, if it makes them happy then cool. As for Wales, we wouldn't notice much difference aside from being pressured into taking the Euro as currency and I'm not into that idea.

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tediousandbrief October 8 2013, 16:10:56 UTC
Oh, the similarities are striking! ;/

I don't think that question has ever actually been asked, come to think of it!

I'm a fan of the Euro, mostly because I had a good experience using it in Austria and liked the different sized bills. Granted, I think the Zloty is weaker than the Euro compared to the dollar, so I hope Poland doesn't get it any time soon. Our money already is so seemingly worthless. :(

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