Fucking Idiot.ricachicaAugust 23 2004, 12:22:52 UTC
Hahahahhahaa... since when were you two CUNTS good people?!
And by the way, you have a public online journal, you moron... so don't give me that YOUR journal crap. If you don't want people reading it or writing in it, then don't have one.
Secondly, there are consequences for everything you do and say. I don't think you should've gotten punched really, because no, you didn't do anything to him besides open your big CUNT mouth. However, your charming girlfriend DID push him, and she DID get a few good hits in... and I think they BOTH deserved to get it. However, if you want to stand up for yourself, maybe you should realize that the consequences for that aren't always pleasant. Whatever happened to being the bigger person and walking away. It's just a word..... CUNT CUNT CUNT... get over it.
My point really wasn't the whole stupid court thing. Let me get this straight with you one more time. I DON'T CARE. I WAS NOT ON TRIAL. I DIDN'T PUNCH YOUR SILLY ASS IN THE FACE!!! (though I kind of wish I had of). I don't even dislike you.
MY POINT is WHY do you march in women's rights marches and then use the system that sets back women to your advantage? You put him in jail because you're women and smaller. Plain and simple. Had you been men, the judge would've laughed in everyone's face and sent us home. How does it make you feel knowing you "stand up for yourself and women" but then push women back down by using your pussy in a court case to your advantage? I would've respected you a lot more if you had realized that if a MAN had said that to another MAN he would've gotten a bloody nose, too. IT'S HYPOCRITICAL!!!! If you want to be treated special because of your vagina (men shouldn't hit women) then why do you go "take a stand" to be treated the same? And what your basically saying is men need to watch what they say to women (cunt...) but... you can say whatever you want and a man better not react????
That's ridiculous. Grow some tits and a pussy and be a real woman. You and your dyke girlfriend. Why did you bother marching?? To be cool? To fit in with the other lesbians?? I don't get it.
I'm not angry because my boyfriend is in jail.... I'm angry because it's pathetic hypocrites like you and Lauren that give women all over a bad name. And I can almost promise you that if anyone that you marched next to heard of this particular instance they would have far less respect for you, too.
It's not okay for ANYONE to hit ANYONE else. EVER.
And you can talk bad about Courtland all you want. But ya know what?? He does not beat me. I threw a damn phone at his face. And I fully expected a reaction from that. There are instances when we get into fights where we should both be walking away. But I WILL come to his defense and say he's smart, funny, amazing, and makes me feel like I'm something, which is more than I can say for a lot of guys I've dated.
Lastly... I would like to know if you think it's okay for Lauren to beat her girlfriends, just because they are the same sex?? I've been thoroughly confused by your "concern" for my relationship. Not to say that she has done this to you, but I DO know she has hurt at least two of her girlfriends.
I don't understand the ignorance and double-standards that you two spout out, and I'm simply posting so maybe I can understand a little better.
dark alleywaysseeingreddAugust 23 2004, 12:45:55 UTC
i dont know you errica and i dont know yer fatass pussy of a "boyfriend" either. but he did happen to deck a very good friend of mine...yes, that "man" hit a girl... oh, but im sure you kbnow what it feels like for him to hit you right? you have no spine and neither does he... take the bong out yer ass, grow up, drop the loser... oh and let him know that a few angry men are looking for him.
Re: dark alleywayspinkruggerAugust 23 2004, 15:42:30 UTC
I also dont know you, but I have never heard so much BS come out of someones mouth before. None of your points are valid. All you can do is to repeat the same mis-directed information that you spouted off the first time.
Again as Abby had mentioned, they didn't march in some womens march for equality. If you paid attention, you would realize gay rights are completly different then womens rights. The went to a festival to celebrate diversity. Not parade around saying, its ok for a man to hit a woman because we are equal.
I have never been so digusted by someone I have never met. You really need to grow up. I have known Lauren for a long time and KNOW she didnt cheat on Abby with Cynthia. I was around for it all. Also, Lauren doesn't hit anyone, so don't go around accusing her of being a girlfriend abuser. Just because you are the one getting beat, doesnt mean everyone else is in a fucked up relationship.
By your words, you are an enabler. You are allowing Courtland to treat you like shit. And now you have a bitter taste in your mouth and are trying to make others look bad in order to make your pathetic ass look better. And to make your shitty ass boyfriend look better.
On another note, I have seen how Lauren lives. She is no slob. She had a cat, but there was no shit anywhere. So therefore that leads me to beleive you were the dirty nasty slobs that were too lazy to empty your own cats litter boxes or clean your filthy moldy dishes from underneath your bed.
Second, you legally have no right to touch Laurens things in the apartment. If you throw it away, you have to buy her new stuff. Sorry girl, but thats the law. You are legally obligated to keep her stuff there.
Third, Lauren is definitly not some Big rugby dyke. You wanna see some big rugby dykes, look a little harder.
Lastly, Abby doesnt need to grow a pussy and tits. She has them thank you very much. She doesnt need some pathetic excuse for a woman to tell her to do otherwise. Abby is a big enough woman already. She sticks up for what she believes. She has conviction. At least she doesnt stand behind some abusive, pathetic excuse for a man. People say a lot of shit. Words are one thing. Violence is another. Obviously you wouldnt know that.
Re: dark alleywaysricachicaAugust 24 2004, 00:05:18 UTC
.... Unless you see how my apartment looks without her here... then you really are spouting off things you don't know about,too, aren't you? Perhaps what it comes down to is four people + two cats = mess. The problem is PART of the mess was hers, as well as ours, and she took no responsibility for any of it. But that's Lauren. She takes no responsibility for anything... And I know about that, I won't bother listing the things I've seen her parents take responsibility of for her in the past year alone.
I'm not legally responsible for her things. Particularly if there is no valid lease and her stuff is still here. What I SAID was... if it is still here when the lease is up, I'm throwing it out, because I am not paying for them to remove her stuff that she has not gotten. I don't think that's unreasonable... Another thing you spouted off about that... you... don't have any clue about.
Finally, you don't know me. Or my boyfriend. At all. You haven't even begun to hear all side of ANYTHING, and you're completely biased. How can you accuse me of "spouting" off about things that I don't know about, when that's essentially what you are doing? If you still disliked both me and him after you at least listened... I would understand... but you people really are shitty at giving anyone but yourselves a chance.
I AM talking about people that I know (I'm sorry I lived with Lauren for a year, and I have my opinions based on that, and what SHE chose to show me as herself) and I don't know Abby all that well, but I AM familiar with the basis of the march... thank you... and no she did not point it out.
Also. I LIVED WITH LAUREN FOR A YEAR!!!! How can you tell me that she did not fuck Cynthia one night and fuck Abby the next?!?! I lived here, I COULD HEAR THEM!!! You can deny it all you want to save your friend, but I was here, honey. I saw different girls here from Abby, to Cynthia, and several others whose name I couldn't even tell you. And maybe two of Lauren's girlfriends lied to me, I'll give you that. But I doubt it. They have told me that she hit them. Why they would lie, you got me.
I don't need anything to make myself feel better. And definitely not anything to make me feel better against Lauren. I don't waste my parent's money on school every semester, I don't get wasted and have sex with random people or get drugged, I don't have countless roommates who think that I was the worst roommate ever (the one that keyed her car, Cat, myself), I haven't switched jobs 6 or 7 times in a year, and I don't cheat on my significant others.
Not to mention, I don't see how I need to grow up for standing up for my opinion. Perhaps I didn't always use the best words, but I'm just trying to understand where they are coming from, and I would like to be understood as well.
I am no saint... but it's not okay to pretend that Lauren, Abby, or yourself, or any of us are.
Re: dark alleywaysseeingreddAugust 25 2004, 12:36:30 UTC
1. a girl NEVER deserves to get hit in the face by a guy...
2. if you had hit her i seriously doubt it would've had the same effect
Ok...so Courtland hits a girl. Does he tell his friends this shit? I'd be embarrased... Errica, even though I think you suck... I still think you deserve better than him. What the hell is wrong with you? You're actually attracted to that guy? Jabba the fuckin Hut? Seriously, you can bitch and complain and start shit cuz you OBVIOUSLY have nothing else to do... but the fact remains.. you will always be beaten and battered by the one who says "i love you".... he will also beat your children if you make it thatfar. Erica, wake up. He's a piece of shit who beats women because he can't handle fighting a man. Abusive. Embarrassing. Immature. Shameful.
Re: dark alleywaysseeingreddAugust 25 2004, 12:39:06 UTC
Oh yeah... didn't he fucking sucker-punch her? Whata fucking pussy. Guys don't even suckerpunch guys without being called a puss. Dude, I cant believe you're debating this horseshit.
Re: dark alleywaysricachicaAugust 26 2004, 09:31:44 UTC
I'm NOT debating that, that's just it.
Lemme just get it all out of the way.
I am in no way, shape, or form trying to justify what happened to Abby. Sucks she got hit. She was just as much in his face as he was in hers (matter fact... SHE'S the one that came back upstairs to get in his face...) and when Lauren got involved, then Abby got hit in the face. Sucker punch, whatever... you weren't even there, dude. And I'm sorry, but you are completely biased about the entire situation. You don't know me, or him. I don't think it is okay that she got hit. I don't think it's okay when ANYONE gets it. We are all people.
I am also not justifying what happened to Lauren, however, I feel less sorry for her, because she should not have touched him. At all. You wanna "push" someone back... I'm sorry but if a dude pushed me back, or a girl... I would defend myself. I don't fault any PERSON, MALE OR FEMALE for defending themselves. She wanted to act big, she got treated big.
Also, if I was wrong about the basis of the march, I was wrong, I'm willing to say that.
However, all of you are attacking poeple you don't even know. I have not once said anything about you or Lauren's roommate for that matter. I am sorry I have my opinions of Lauren and Abby... but I do. And if you want to dislike me because of that alone... then I think there are other people that might need to do some growing up. I spent an entire year in the room next to Lauren -- as a result, I happen to think she is a terrible person, and there are several other people, roommates and girlfriends, that share the same opinion. Alissa, I hope she is a better roommate for you than she was for me. And I'm glad you think she's an awesome roommate, you made out better than I did.
But I'm not going to lie about what I know. You can say Lauren is always faithful and kind to her girlfriends, but it just isn't true. You can say you were with her the entire time, but unless you were HERE at this house watching her bring countless girls over while she was supposedly still with Cynthia AND with Abby OR HERE listening to them fuck, then you weren't "with her the whole time". Furthermore, her girlfriends have told me she hits them. The girlfriends that I ACTUALLY talked to, that lived here and spent the majority of their time here.
My point is... I don't go attacking you people, even after you had tons of really nice choice words to say about me, because I don't know you. And you don't know me, or Courtland.
Again, you don't even know the entire story. Just what your friends told you. You have a biase, and as a result you are judging people. Hell, you could even NOT like Courtland because he hit your friends in the face, but I didn't do a damn thing to either one of them except tell the truth. I also didn't do anything to you, or Lauren's roommate.
I think it's sad that the two of you have the nerve to say things about me and say you don't like me, when you don't even know who I am. When Abby and Lauren have something nasty to say, I respect that. At least they have SPOKEN to me before.
I'm sorry this situation turned out like this. I liked Abby before this happened, and if she hadn't continue to run her mouth to me about my boyfriend and my business... particularly when she doesn't know what she's talking about, much like you are doing... I still would. I haven't like Lauren since WAY before this happened... and I never will. I think she is a conniving, dishonest, lazy, irresponsible, person with serious attention issues. I spent a year with her, I have a right to that opinion, and I have valid reasons for feeling that way.
Just as those two have valid reasons for feeling the way they do about me.
You don't like me simply because your friend doesn't.
And by the way, you have a public online journal, you moron... so don't give me that YOUR journal crap. If you don't want people reading it or writing in it, then don't have one.
Secondly, there are consequences for everything you do and say. I don't think you should've gotten punched really, because no, you didn't do anything to him besides open your big CUNT mouth. However, your charming girlfriend DID push him, and she DID get a few good hits in... and I think they BOTH deserved to get it. However, if you want to stand up for yourself, maybe you should realize that the consequences for that aren't always pleasant. Whatever happened to being the bigger person and walking away. It's just a word..... CUNT CUNT CUNT... get over it.
My point really wasn't the whole stupid court thing. Let me get this straight with you one more time. I DON'T CARE. I WAS NOT ON TRIAL. I DIDN'T PUNCH YOUR SILLY ASS IN THE FACE!!! (though I kind of wish I had of). I don't even dislike you.
MY POINT is WHY do you march in women's rights marches and then use the system that sets back women to your advantage? You put him in jail because you're women and smaller. Plain and simple. Had you been men, the judge would've laughed in everyone's face and sent us home. How does it make you feel knowing you "stand up for yourself and women" but then push women back down by using your pussy in a court case to your advantage? I would've respected you a lot more if you had realized that if a MAN had said that to another MAN he would've gotten a bloody nose, too. IT'S HYPOCRITICAL!!!! If you want to be treated special because of your vagina (men shouldn't hit women) then why do you go "take a stand" to be treated the same? And what your basically saying is men need to watch what they say to women (cunt...) but... you can say whatever you want and a man better not react????
That's ridiculous. Grow some tits and a pussy and be a real woman. You and your dyke girlfriend. Why did you bother marching?? To be cool? To fit in with the other lesbians?? I don't get it.
I'm not angry because my boyfriend is in jail.... I'm angry because it's pathetic hypocrites like you and Lauren that give women all over a bad name. And I can almost promise you that if anyone that you marched next to heard of this particular instance they would have far less respect for you, too.
It's not okay for ANYONE to hit ANYONE else. EVER.
And you can talk bad about Courtland all you want. But ya know what?? He does not beat me. I threw a damn phone at his face. And I fully expected a reaction from that. There are instances when we get into fights where we should both be walking away. But I WILL come to his defense and say he's smart, funny, amazing, and makes me feel like I'm something, which is more than I can say for a lot of guys I've dated.
Lastly... I would like to know if you think it's okay for Lauren to beat her girlfriends, just because they are the same sex?? I've been thoroughly confused by your "concern" for my relationship. Not to say that she has done this to you, but I DO know she has hurt at least two of her girlfriends.
I don't understand the ignorance and double-standards that you two spout out, and I'm simply posting so maybe I can understand a little better.
-Erica
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I'm sorry it was a guy instead of a female that did it... If I had hit her, would that have been okay?
Just checking.
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Again as Abby had mentioned, they didn't march in some womens march for equality. If you paid attention, you would realize gay rights are completly different then womens rights. The went to a festival to celebrate diversity. Not parade around saying, its ok for a man to hit a woman because we are equal.
I have never been so digusted by someone I have never met. You really need to grow up. I have known Lauren for a long time and KNOW she didnt cheat on Abby with Cynthia. I was around for it all. Also, Lauren doesn't hit anyone, so don't go around accusing her of being a girlfriend abuser. Just because you are the one getting beat, doesnt mean everyone else is in a fucked up relationship.
By your words, you are an enabler. You are allowing Courtland to treat you like shit. And now you have a bitter taste in your mouth and are trying to make others look bad in order to make your pathetic ass look better. And to make your shitty ass boyfriend look better.
On another note, I have seen how Lauren lives. She is no slob. She had a cat, but there was no shit anywhere. So therefore that leads me to beleive you were the dirty nasty slobs that were too lazy to empty your own cats litter boxes or clean your filthy moldy dishes from underneath your bed.
Second, you legally have no right to touch Laurens things in the apartment. If you throw it away, you have to buy her new stuff. Sorry girl, but thats the law. You are legally obligated to keep her stuff there.
Third, Lauren is definitly not some Big rugby dyke. You wanna see some big rugby dykes, look a little harder.
Lastly, Abby doesnt need to grow a pussy and tits. She has them thank you very much. She doesnt need some pathetic excuse for a woman to tell her to do otherwise. Abby is a big enough woman already. She sticks up for what she believes. She has conviction. At least she doesnt stand behind some abusive, pathetic excuse for a man. People say a lot of shit. Words are one thing. Violence is another. Obviously you wouldnt know that.
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I'm not legally responsible for her things. Particularly if there is no valid lease and her stuff is still here. What I SAID was... if it is still here when the lease is up, I'm throwing it out, because I am not paying for them to remove her stuff that she has not gotten. I don't think that's unreasonable... Another thing you spouted off about that... you... don't have any clue about.
Finally, you don't know me. Or my boyfriend. At all. You haven't even begun to hear all side of ANYTHING, and you're completely biased. How can you accuse me of "spouting" off about things that I don't know about, when that's essentially what you are doing? If you still disliked both me and him after you at least listened... I would understand... but you people really are shitty at giving anyone but yourselves a chance.
I AM talking about people that I know (I'm sorry I lived with Lauren for a year, and I have my opinions based on that, and what SHE chose to show me as herself) and I don't know Abby all that well, but I AM familiar with the basis of the march... thank you... and no she did not point it out.
Also. I LIVED WITH LAUREN FOR A YEAR!!!! How can you tell me that she did not fuck Cynthia one night and fuck Abby the next?!?! I lived here, I COULD HEAR THEM!!! You can deny it all you want to save your friend, but I was here, honey. I saw different girls here from Abby, to Cynthia, and several others whose name I couldn't even tell you. And maybe two of Lauren's girlfriends lied to me, I'll give you that. But I doubt it. They have told me that she hit them. Why they would lie, you got me.
I don't need anything to make myself feel better. And definitely not anything to make me feel better against Lauren. I don't waste my parent's money on school every semester, I don't get wasted and have sex with random people or get drugged, I don't have countless roommates who think that I was the worst roommate ever (the one that keyed her car, Cat, myself), I haven't switched jobs 6 or 7 times in a year, and I don't cheat on my significant others.
Not to mention, I don't see how I need to grow up for standing up for my opinion. Perhaps I didn't always use the best words, but I'm just trying to understand where they are coming from, and I would like to be understood as well.
I am no saint... but it's not okay to pretend that Lauren, Abby, or yourself, or any of us are.
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2. if you had hit her i seriously doubt it would've had the same effect
Ok...so Courtland hits a girl. Does he tell his friends this shit? I'd be embarrased... Errica, even though I think you suck... I still think you deserve better than him. What the hell is wrong with you? You're actually attracted to that guy? Jabba the fuckin Hut? Seriously, you can bitch and complain and start shit cuz you OBVIOUSLY have nothing else to do... but the fact remains.. you will always be beaten and battered by the one who says "i love you".... he will also beat your children if you make it thatfar. Erica, wake up. He's a piece of shit who beats women because he can't handle fighting a man. Abusive. Embarrassing. Immature. Shameful.
I spit on your "relationship"....
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Lemme just get it all out of the way.
I am in no way, shape, or form trying to justify what happened to Abby. Sucks she got hit. She was just as much in his face as he was in hers (matter fact... SHE'S the one that came back upstairs to get in his face...) and when Lauren got involved, then Abby got hit in the face. Sucker punch, whatever... you weren't even there, dude. And I'm sorry, but you are completely biased about the entire situation. You don't know me, or him. I don't think it is okay that she got hit. I don't think it's okay when ANYONE gets it. We are all people.
I am also not justifying what happened to Lauren, however, I feel less sorry for her, because she should not have touched him. At all. You wanna "push" someone back... I'm sorry but if a dude pushed me back, or a girl... I would defend myself. I don't fault any PERSON, MALE OR FEMALE for defending themselves. She wanted to act big, she got treated big.
Also, if I was wrong about the basis of the march, I was wrong, I'm willing to say that.
However, all of you are attacking poeple you don't even know. I have not once said anything about you or Lauren's roommate for that matter. I am sorry I have my opinions of Lauren and Abby... but I do. And if you want to dislike me because of that alone... then I think there are other people that might need to do some growing up. I spent an entire year in the room next to Lauren -- as a result, I happen to think she is a terrible person, and there are several other people, roommates and girlfriends, that share the same opinion. Alissa, I hope she is a better roommate for you than she was for me. And I'm glad you think she's an awesome roommate, you made out better than I did.
But I'm not going to lie about what I know. You can say Lauren is always faithful and kind to her girlfriends, but it just isn't true. You can say you were with her the entire time, but unless you were HERE at this house watching her bring countless girls over while she was supposedly still with Cynthia AND with Abby OR HERE listening to them fuck, then you weren't "with her the whole time". Furthermore, her girlfriends have told me she hits them. The girlfriends that I ACTUALLY talked to, that lived here and spent the majority of their time here.
My point is... I don't go attacking you people, even after you had tons of really nice choice words to say about me, because I don't know you. And you don't know me, or Courtland.
Again, you don't even know the entire story. Just what your friends told you. You have a biase, and as a result you are judging people. Hell, you could even NOT like Courtland because he hit your friends in the face, but I didn't do a damn thing to either one of them except tell the truth. I also didn't do anything to you, or Lauren's roommate.
I think it's sad that the two of you have the nerve to say things about me and say you don't like me, when you don't even know who I am. When Abby and Lauren have something nasty to say, I respect that. At least they have SPOKEN to me before.
I'm sorry this situation turned out like this. I liked Abby before this happened, and if she hadn't continue to run her mouth to me about my boyfriend and my business... particularly when she doesn't know what she's talking about, much like you are doing... I still would. I haven't like Lauren since WAY before this happened... and I never will. I think she is a conniving, dishonest, lazy, irresponsible, person with serious attention issues. I spent a year with her, I have a right to that opinion, and I have valid reasons for feeling that way.
Just as those two have valid reasons for feeling the way they do about me.
You don't like me simply because your friend doesn't.
Who's the one that needs to grow up?
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