No on CA Prop 8

Oct 18, 2008 00:36

I never thought that Sarah Palin would end up being my spokesperson against Proposition 8, but that was one aspect of the vice presidential debate that genuinely surprised me.

PALIN: ... no one would ever propose, not in a McCain-Palin administration, to do anything to prohibit, say, visitations in a hospital or contracts being signed, negotiated ( Read more... )

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kat89 your info is incorrect bradwillis October 19 2008, 23:01:57 UTC
kat89, I don't know you and you don't know me, so let me start by telling you a little about myself. I'm a friend of 'tongodeon'. I'm gay. I'm a volunteer for the No on 8 campaign. And for four years I worked in the California public school system in the city of South San Francisco.

Proposition 8 does not address the topic of school curriculum and, as such, will have no effect on teaching about marriage, homosexual or heterosexual, in the California public schools. Teaching about marriage in California public schools is governed by SB 71 which does NOT mandate any curriculum but instead leaves it up to individual school districts to decide what is appropriate. Passage or failure of Proposition 8 will have no effect whatsoever on SB 71 or school curriculum.

From the Los Angeles Times:

"School districts and the California Department of Education, meanwhile, are getting a steady stream of calls from the media and parents wanting to know whether gay marriage will be taught in schools if Proposition 8 is defeated...There is nothing in the state education code that requires schools to teach anything about marriage. Even the decision about whether to offer comprehensive sex education is left up to individual school districts...What state law does require is that districts that offer sex education "teach respect for marriage and committed relationships."....Hilary McLean, spokeswoman for Jack O'Connell, the state superintendent of public instruction, said she was unaware of any district that had changed its curriculum as a result of the California Supreme Court's May ruling allowing same-sex marriage."

From the San Jose Mercury News:

"A second, more recent ad by the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign shows a young girl rushing to tell her mother that she learned in school that she could marry another girl..."It's unnecessarily and irresponsibly alarmist," Hilary McLean, press secretay for Jack O'Connell, California's state schools chief, said of the ads. While local school boards could add marriage classes to their curriculums, there would be no statewide mandate to do so."

Like 'tongodeon', I don't understand your assertion "Society will force us to accept it." No one can force anyone to accept anything.

kat89, when you vote in November, I hope you will keep in mind that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that marriage is a civil right. And marriage confers over 1,100 rights and benefits to the married couple and their children. Denying homosexuals the right to a civil marriage (not a church wedding, kat89...a civil marriage, recognized by the state) results in everything from enormous inconveniences like having to pay more taxes because you can't file as a couple to the downright tragic such as the many cases in which people are denied access to a hospitalized partner simply because they are a same sex couple, unable to claim that they are married.

Finally, kat89, if you want to learn about how denying marriage rights to homosexual couples actually harms children, read about what happened to the Langbehn-Pond family as a result of discriminatory marriage laws: http://www.familyequality.org/blog/?p=272

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