Valerie Plame's Undercover/NOC Identity

[tongodeon]

As I understand it there are two kinds of CIA agents. Regular CIA Employees wear "CIA" nametags and drive to Langley every morning. Undercover agents operate "under cover" - they tell their families and friends that they work for agencies other than the CIA. Valerie Plame was under the cover of the Brewster Jennings companyUndercover agents can

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Nice General Summary

[drieuxster]

Try to remember that the problem of transitioning folks out of NOC capacities means that one has to deal with the issues related to their former associates and their former associates capacities

[koshii]

Cheney is the most evil man running for the Most Evil Man award.

But he IS the Vice President

[drieuxster]

He is therefore clearly only a candidate for the Most Vice Evil Man Award, and would only be elligible for the Most Evil Man Award, we he to assume the offices and duties of the President in an actual and lawfully sanctioned way.

NOC Domestic Works

[anonymous]

The point might be that Plame was working NOC inside the US. This is something that the CIA has always done, its in the charter at Congress. She was operating under the five year law returning form overseas operations(can't tough this). She was supposedly investigating some domestic political groups, possibly using the NSA to do so. Aound this time the retiring CIA employee union created groups. Move On .Org hired a bunch of retired CIA agents and there waere all these complaints about how these are funded. So, you might see a convergence between her domestic NOC work, the NSA, and the political groups that started about this time. The leaks started when Plame complained, but what was she doing during those five years

Re: NOC Domestic Works

[tongodeon]

The point might be that Plame was working NOC inside the US.

She might *also* might have worked NOC operations inside the US, but she "had carried out covert work overseas within the last 5 years" according to Fitzgerald's deposition.

She was supposedly investigating some domestic political groups, possibly using the NSA to do so.

Uhhhhhh... What's your source for this claim?

The leaks started when Plame complained, but what was she doing during those five years?

The leaks started when *Wilson* complained. (Plame has never made a public statement before or after the leaks.) As far as what she was doing in the last five years: apparently she was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from IranAs for the rest of your story I can't even parse it, let alone respond to it. Something about Plame and Ames and MoveOn.org conspiring to... do what? To help Richard Pryor spend $30 million dollars in 30 days? And when exactly did Plame work in Iran? Whatever you're

Re: NOC Domestic Works

[anonymous]

Tong, God, Deon, whatever. No money in the bank for figuring out Plame, so might as well have fun

Re: NOC Domestic Works

[tongodeon]

No money in the bank for figuring out Plame, so might as well have fun!

If everyone was on the same page it would be fun to play "who can think up the craziest conspiracy theory" but until objective reality is sorted out I'd rather avoid the games.

1)The five year thing just went into dispute again. Supposedly she has'nt, now.

Disputed by whom? On what grounds? With what evidence? Cite your sources, man.

2)Domestic political groups, news article on the internet(regular news)
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WMD was already leaked by CIA and Plame. A program not wanted at CIA.

I can't parse any of this. They're not even sentences. VERBS ARE YOUR FRIEND.

Plame made a public statement that she was a CIA Operations Officer(OOp)s, paramilitarily trained at the farm, in 'Vanity Fair.'

No she didn't. No such claim was ever made.

(If you'd like to refute my claim of non-existence, cite your source and provide her quote.)

Sources? They are all over the internet and from traditional news orgs. Go check.That's not how civilized disagreements work. Not only