the doctor and (mommy) daddy issues
i'm not sure whether this is so obvious that someone will have thought of it already, or so crazy that it won't make sense. so. . .
proposition: since _rose_, the relationship between the doctor and his female companion has been mirrored in the relationship between the companion's mother and the companion's father.
more specifically, how the ( Read more... )
proposition: since _rose_, the relationship between the doctor and his female companion has been mirrored in the relationship between the companion's mother and the companion's father.
more specifically, how the ( Read more... )
In the opening to "Father's Day" Rose gives Pete's birth year as 1953. That makes him 5 years older than me. When Jackie was 40, I was 48 thus Pete would have been 53, which is consistent with the amount of time it would have taken in his adult life to build a company that size. That makes him 13 years older than Jackie, older man, see where I'm going?
I think Jackie sees that reflection of her relationship with Pete even if it's not conscious. She sees Rose with this older man, who might leave her the way that Pete "left" Jackie and all her "Mom" alarms go off at once. When you add to that, that Pete was not particularly dependable, always trying out new things, etc, etc, you do have to wonder if Rose doesn't see her Daddy in this time traveling white knight. Did you notice that the music in the background at the opening of "Father's Day" was "Someday My Prince Will Come" from Disney's Cinderella?
I really do love it that RTD writes romance for older women. It was such a delight to see Pete and Jackie get together, instead of just standing on the side lines smiling affectionately at Rose, with that "knowing their time has passed" look at each other. It's good story telling that he looks at their relationship with each other and doesn't just depend on the Doctor and Rose being "these two young people that are so adorable, of course they get a happy ending" to sell the story. Gotta respect that.
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In the opening to "Father's Day" Rose gives Pete's birth year as 1953. That makes him 5 years older than me. When Jackie was 40, I was 48 thus Pete would have been 53, which is consistent with the amount of time it would have taken in his adult life to build a company that size. That makes him 13 years older than Jackie, older man, see where I'm going?
Oh, that's interesting! And since Jackie's 40 in January 2007 as per Rise of the Cybermen she would have been about 19 when she married Pete. (Of course, this is assuming the Father's Day maths gets everyone else right, considering it has Rose as 17 years old)
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(i'm not sure i would argue it, but i'm trying to figure out why that's not usually brought out as a positive about RTD's writing of over 30 women.)
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But really, Jackie's sexuality is portrayed as kind of pathetic and desperate. I think this is just part of the stereotype RTD set up for her. And the "cure" for it is...getting her back with her husband, her True Love.
Really, RTD is shockingly conventional in many ways.
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ok, it's kind of hard to argue with that. it is good that people over 30 get to have feelings and libidos. but why exactly must the ending always be either ending up back with their husbands or getting a chaste spin-off?*
*(i am not totally spoilered for the SJS series, so maybe i am wrong.)
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i also think you can read rose's nonchalance after saving pete in father's day (in the face of the doctor's anger) as, "i've got my dad now, so i don't need you." (which sort of ends up being true for the rest of the episode, given the ending.) they also do a bit in which the doctor does the same thing with rose that pete does (i forget what: touch her face or something.)
i'm not sure if the stuff i talk about in my post is all purposeful, but this particular strand of it just *has* to be.
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