The shoe theory of Heaven and Hell

Mar 30, 2005 07:58

Posed by P.S.A. at the message board on http://www.randi.org

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arkham1010 March 30 2005, 17:01:34 UTC
There is the belief that there are several layers to the soul, sort of like the Freudian ID, ego and Superego. A lower self which is concerned with the basics of life, the four F's. (Feeding, fighting, fleeing and reproduction). This lower self is shed upon death, and a higher self goes to heaven. This higher self would be something like the superego, the higher thoughts, dreams, ideals, beliefs, and whatnot. What makes Tim, Tim.

Strangely, the belief says that memory would be lost too, shed with the lower self. So what makes Tim Tim would go to heaven, but not remember who you were.

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tjareth March 30 2005, 19:30:22 UTC
"F" for reproduction... that's good. :)

The "higher self" is an interesting way of looking at it. In this interpretation, would that happen to all individuals upon death? It seems like everyone's "higher self" would seem worthy.

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hmmm maisey_1 April 13 2005, 23:53:29 UTC
I like the shoe theory,but I dont belive in religion just spirituality,so heres my twisted view..lol
Heaven is a planet,and when our bodies decay our energy goes there,our real self, and maybe we stay or we come back to earth or maybe we go to another demension,I dont know I am but a Mear Mortal lol,all I know is that there is something bigger than me,and yes I do believe Its God,
And hell could be a state of mind,but you could argue that heaven is too...ahhhhh why did I have to read that,I am so frustrated now lol...Thanks alot...my brain is aching...Im in Hell!!!! lmao This could go on forever...I like the angel pin thing lol...And dude I dont want to stare at a shoe althoug....I have 56 pairs quite a shoe fetish aye?
love ya

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Re: hmmm maisey_1 April 13 2005, 23:58:27 UTC
from my sons point of view he read it he is 13 this is what he says:
think about it if theres no heaven what would you see when you died?you wouldnt see black because you would be dead and you wouldnt exist,imagine not existing...we are energy how could we not exist?

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Re: hmmm maisey_1 April 14 2005, 00:05:20 UTC
I believe heaven is real....I want to lol...now i am in my "happy place "again
hahhaha

lalalalala happy place of peace and calmness...Be the tree....lmao

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Re: hmmm tjareth April 14 2005, 00:28:27 UTC
My proposed answer: the same thing you saw before you were born.
There is energy and there is self, does self always follow energy?

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Re: hmmm maisey_1 April 14 2005, 11:35:54 UTC
Well maybe self is the energy or soul, and there is flesh and self(energy)when the flesh rots the self moves on,and maybe we are still who we are now with no change,maybe our "car" or our bodies really arent us,like colors in a prism maybe people really see our souls,not our flesh,and when our flesh dies we are the same as before,and nothing changes....for example,maybe we are dead now, no?

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Re: hmmm maisey_1 April 14 2005, 11:43:00 UTC
as we all saw everything when we were born...what was it? and funny how none of us remember it.

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