I'd heard all kinds of things, both bad and good. A person I usually trust liked all the Latin and other linguistic frills this novel has, so I thought I'd try it. But the gender-related things destroyed my enjoyment of anything else good there might have been.
This doesn't sound like fun at all and neither does the description on goodreads. There are also some really bad reviews on there and people that never finished the book.
Yeah, opinions on the book vary wildly. A person I usually trust liked all the Latin and other linguistic frills this novel has, so I thought I'd try it. But the gender-related things destroyed my enjoyment of anything else good there might have been.
I'm sorry to hear it didn't work for you -- but also, it's such a hugely polarizing book, I don't even try to predict who on my flist might love or hate it -- and I definitely know people with a good overlap with reading tastes with me who are on both ends of that spectrum.
I didn't realize it just ends in the middle of the plot, or I probably wouldn't have bothered.Yeah -- it was actually a single book cut in two by publisher's demand, and very close to when it was actually supposed to be published. The author insisted on a hasty edit to move a couple of chapters around so the book would have SOME kind of resolution -- the Martin and Papa figure out what the OS is up to bit would've otherwise been at the beginning of book 2 -- but you can still tell it was not conceived as a standalone
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The gender stuff... It's definitely trying to do something very intentional, but it was definitely not clear to me in book 1 what it was there for, and so I wasn't getting anything out of it.
I can tell that it's trying to do something, but the way it does it is extremely aggravating to me.
But it's more of a societal problem for me than one with that book. I only this week read an article about a speech therapist who helps transgender people work with their voice to make them sound more like their intended gender, and it had such tidbits like "women modulate their voice more" and "men speak in short, terse sentences" and that was just as aggravating. I have a problem with trying to impose *more* stereotypes on gender than there already are.
No wonder people have problems with their gender if that Whole Bunch of Nonsense is what they think they have to fit. Argh.
There is one beautiful moment in one of the later books where the biological sex of one of the characters is revealed and it kind of blew my mind by forcing me to
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I didn't realize it just ends in the middle of the plot, or I probably wouldn't have bothered.Yeah -- it was actually a single book cut in two by publisher's demand, and very close to when it was actually supposed to be published. The author insisted on a hasty edit to move a couple of chapters around so the book would have SOME kind of resolution -- the Martin and Papa figure out what the OS is up to bit would've otherwise been at the beginning of book 2 -- but you can still tell it was not conceived as a standalone ( ... )
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I can tell that it's trying to do something, but the way it does it is extremely aggravating to me.
But it's more of a societal problem for me than one with that book. I only this week read an article about a speech therapist who helps transgender people work with their voice to make them sound more like their intended gender, and it had such tidbits like "women modulate their voice more" and "men speak in short, terse sentences" and that was just as aggravating. I have a problem with trying to impose *more* stereotypes on gender than there already are.
No wonder people have problems with their gender if that Whole Bunch of Nonsense is what they think they have to fit. Argh.
There is one beautiful moment in one of the later books where the biological sex of one of the characters is revealed and it kind of blew my mind by forcing me to ( ... )
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