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nutrageousness June 17 2006, 19:01:13 UTC
I think that the Christian faith is more of a fear of the afterlife and all that more than it is a choice to believe.
There are two main elements of Christianity that led to my agnosticism:
1. Hell
2. Prayer

Hell cannot exist if God is just. He created everyone, and he created every aspect of their personality, so basically he set all of their sins in motion when he created them. Therefore he caused all the sin that he hates so much, and he cannot rightly send anyone to Hell. So Christianity exists under the concept of predetermination, and that sucks.

Okay, so apparently God has a plan, but he's gonna make a change in this infinite logic and have to restructure the entire plan he has prepared for the world so that you can overcome some illness or something. If he wanted that, he should've just made it that way to begin with. Prayer doesn't make sense. 'nuff said.

See Exodus for advocation of child slavery.
In Corinthians they say a man with long hair cannot be righteous.

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thoughtisdeadly June 17 2006, 22:36:30 UTC
nice.
you win a prize.

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cool_bethan June 18 2006, 00:10:43 UTC
but you know, i think a lot of things in the bible arent just stories or direct rules, they're lessons that God wanted us to learn. i dont take everything literally, because some of that stuff is just downright silly. plus, being a christian, i see a lot more relevance and direction for the way i live my life in the new testament, where christ is teaching.

and with the hell thing, like i said before, we have the freedom to choose. that's whats so amazing. we can choose what we want to believe in, and he lets us do that. but God still tries to show us that he cares and which way he wants us to take in life. we just need to stop and look. most people just dont take the time to listen, and thats where they come in saying he doesnt care and he cant exist.

i think prayer is really important because it gives you strength and comfort. it's also a time when you can sit down and try to listen to what he has to say.

but if god gave you the freedom to choose what you believe, i will too.

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abbeymoore June 18 2006, 02:17:06 UTC
i like that.

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thoughtisdeadly June 18 2006, 03:14:23 UTC
however, that doesnt explain WHY you believe this.
its just a statement of what you believe.
what im looking for is WHY people believe this.

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cool_bethan June 18 2006, 04:16:35 UTC
because ive seen it and ive lived it and i feel it and i know i havent gone through all i've gone through for nothing.

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nutrageousness June 18 2006, 07:48:26 UTC
Exodus 21:7-8 ( ... )

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thoughtisdeadly June 18 2006, 19:53:20 UTC
..its not suprising that someone would question the validity of a book historians say was compiled after no less than 60 years of verbal story-telling (but im sure the stories remained intact, its not like any bias or personal belief may have changed them, oh no).

it also doesnt help that the books included were included because a very small group of people decided that those were the best for bringing christianity under one specific belief, and excluded many other texts of the time.

i think its ridiculous that people consider the bible to be the "word of god". no! its not! PEOPLE WROTE IT! and considering that during that time, literacy wasnt exactly common among the worlds population, there would be very few people to question any changes made when the stories were recorded on paper.

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thoughtisdeadly June 18 2006, 19:46:11 UTC
do you believe plants and animals go to heaven?

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