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thisspacevacant

I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.

Feb 27, 2008 12:21

If you're playing a Ventrue, you should read Shakespeare's Julius Caesar Act 3 Scene 2. If you've read it before, you should read it again. Honestly, read the whole play, but pay special attention to that scene. Then, recognize that White Wolf canon places Mark Antony as an embraced Ventrue ( Read more... )

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noplate February 27 2008, 17:41:56 UTC

many, many people I game with have had this conversation about Vampire in general, not just Ventrue.

on a side note, if LARP was like the Rome series, I'd never sleep.

thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 17:47:14 UTC

Also true. But this character specifically is entirely imperative for Ventrue.

Other clans might be better represented by other characters in other plays. I can see Richard III more like a Lasombra, Tzimisce, maybe Brujah than a Ventrue. Henry V as a Brujah, etc.

Mark Antony is straight up Ventrue, though, and even WW claims him. Maintains subtlety and grace in mourning Caesar while rousing a rabble instead of passionately outright charging it himself like a Brujah might. It's the difference that counts him as Ventrue.

noplate February 27 2008, 18:00:25 UTC

Agreed, but he also comes off Lasombra or Setite at times.

But yeah I dont think people understand the depth and sublety in Shakesphere's and etc's plays with the politics, meanings, etc, or they just aint teaching it anymore in schools. I love that stuff.

thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 18:27:24 UTC

I think most people haven't read them since they were in high school, and few deeply understood anything they read in high school. They were too busy being teenagers. Few people seem to re-read anything they read back then, which is a shame specifically in the case of Shakespeare's stuff.

stefhen19 February 27 2008, 19:51:45 UTC

I'll have to check out that scene when I get home.

Do high schools even teach Shakespeare anymore? Or lecture about Julius Caesar, Henry V, Henry VIII, and Richard III? Mine barely did. I think we read maybe two plays by Shakespeare and that was it.

noplate February 27 2008, 20:07:02 UTC

"I think we read maybe two plays by Shakespeare and that was it."

I totally encourage you to read more of them, even if its just the cliff notes. They're good stories.

Of course I had a bit more being willing to act in plays in HS and College, I've mercutio several times, done some MacBeth (before I got injured and had to drop out), Antigone...

stefhen19 February 27 2008, 20:31:20 UTC

Oh don't worry I have plenty of Shakespeare experience. I originally major in theatre production design at a school that was very heavy handed with the Shakespeare especially since the school host the 2nd largest Shakespeare fest in the nation every summer.

noplate February 27 2008, 20:34:46 UTC

Oh phew, and woot!

thisspacevacant February 27 2008, 21:46:19 UTC

My high school did Hamlet, Romeo & Juliet, Julius Caesar, MacBeth, and I think Henry V for me. But that was 10+ years ago. Right now I am taking an upper level college English course on teaching Shakespeare to high school students, though, for what that's worth. I'm sad I wasn't made to read Richard III sooner.

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