Do not see my fair rose wither (Histories AU)

[lareinenoire]

Title: Do not see my fair rose wither
Author: lareinenoire
Play: 1 Henry IV
Characters / Pairings: Hal, Isabel, Richard (flashback); Hal/Isabel, Richard/Isabel, Hal/Richard (sort of)
Rating: PG
Summary: After Richard's death, Isabel is escaping ghosts and Hal is chasing them.
Wordcount: 2153
Author's Notes: Part of the Big Shakespeare Histories AU, set just

Comments

[17catherines]

I do like this. And knowing that Hal ended up marrying Isabel's younger sister adds a whole interesting level to the interaction...

[lareinenoire]

Even more interesting is that after Richard died, Henry IV tried to marry Isabel to his son, but the French king wouldn't have it. They were fairly close in age too.

[17catherines]

I didn't know that bit!

I always found it just slightly disconcerting that two kings after Richard II you have someone marrying his Queen's younger sister - I know Isabel was very young when she married Richard, but it's still strange to think about.

[angevin2]

And Isabel herself, when the issue arose, was all "FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON."

In re: disconcerting age differences, I don't know whether it makes it better or worse that Catherine was eleven years younger than Isabel! It probably does make it less weird if you consider that Richard II was not really old enough to be middle-aged when he was deposed, and that Henry was the same age as Richard and didn't live to be particularly old either (he was about 45 when he died).

[17catherines]

Yes, I never really think of Henry as a contemporary of Richard, for some reason (I blame all the Henry IV / Richard II slash which is now permanently tattooed on my brain, thank you so much Shakespeare and angevin2!).

Mind you, wasn't Isabel quite a lot younger than Richard? Which makes Catherine quite a lot + eleven years younger than Henry... oh dear...

(also, go Isabel!)

[angevin2]

...why does the slash make them not seem like contemporaries?

Unless we have got our Henries confused somewhere, which seems to be the case. See, this is why they had the Wars of the Roses, to get rid of all the extra Henries, Edwards, and Richards. Anyway here is how the ages work out, relative to each other:

Richard: born January 1367
Henry IV: born March or April 1367
Henry V: born August 1387
Isabel: born November 1389
Catherine: born October 1401 (also, I cannot add)

[17catherines]

... because it turns out we're talking about different Henries! I thought you meant Richard and Hal.

Damn those plantagenets and their total lack of originality in naming their sons!

[17catherines]

Heh, see my reply!

I love your explanation for the wars of the Roses (though it didn't really work, they still wound up with Henries in the end...)

[angevin2]

Yes, but they were easier to tell apart.

Also, in the early sixteenth century they realized that the Wars of the Roses had done nothing to purge the realm of Thomases, so they killed all of the important ones...

[17catherines]

You have to watch those Thomases. They get into *everything* and the next thing you know, they are getting stubborn about theology, writing treatises and pamphlets, being martyred, and heaven knows what else.

Very wearing on the furniture, and a disaster in the library.

[lareinenoire]

They get into *everything* and the next thing you know, they are getting stubborn about theology, writing treatises and pamphlets, being martyred, and heaven knows what else.

Building castles in their t'other hose. Have you any idea how hard it is to get that out of the carpet? ;)

[angevin2]

"Is that a castle in your t'other hose or are you just happy to see me?"

[17catherines]

Oh, I know. Even the cleaning services won't touch them any More, not after that last incident with the Utopia. Golden books in the most *unseemly* locations, not to mention moral philosophy and satire all over the curtains... Disgraceful.

[lareinenoire]

I did recently realise that they'd purged the realm of Richards too. You don't get a Richard in royal or high aristocratic families after Richard III, that I'm aware of. Instead, you get Roberts and Ruperts.