Nerd Blasphemy, Redux.

Dec 20, 2015 15:57

Went to see The Force Awakens - non-3D on a Sunday afternoon meant a nice non-crowded theatre ( Read more... )

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theweaselking December 20 2015, 21:50:34 UTC
Awesome bits ( ... )

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torrain December 20 2015, 22:06:46 UTC
Re Finn: is it possible his Force-sensitivity is part of why he quit? I get the impression that the First Order troopers were indoctrinated fairly heavily, and yet the first time he sees people getting killed he bails with admirable conviction.(1) I'm guessing the murder of a village might not produce a truly large-scale disturbance in the Force, but I'm wondering if it was enough to help him go.

(I still grin a little over "No-one looked at mgs the way you did." She looked at you like she was gonna beat your ass with a stick, and she did.)

Love the two sides, light/dark, shooter/protector division, mind.
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(1)"Alright, then, I'll GO to Hell!"

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kierthos December 21 2015, 04:05:54 UTC
Have they come out and said he is Force sensitive? I mean, you don't have to be one to use a lightsaber. You're just almost certainly going to suck at using it.

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torrain December 21 2015, 12:20:21 UTC
Nope, but they have come out and said that he went from heavily trained stormtrooper with no prior indications of questionable behaviour to bravely breaking out an enemy prisoner the first time he was in combat and saw the Empire killing people. That seemed kind of unusual to me. :)

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theweaselking December 21 2015, 15:09:52 UTC
Not outright, but a bunch of things happened that, if they aren't a sign that he's Force-sensitive, heavily imply plot armor.

And I think it works better for the story if he's sensitive, so that's my story and I'm sticking to it until and unless Disney contradicts me.

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theweaselking December 20 2015, 23:06:37 UTC
The, uh, "secret" of her identity isn't exactly a deep secret, though.

At least Luke specifically ISN'T looking for her - they're not hiding Darth Vader's son from Darth Vader by putting him on Darth Vader's home planet, with Darth Vader's only surviving relatives, this time.

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theweaselking December 21 2015, 00:19:15 UTC
Also awesome: Han Solo shoots many people in this movie. As far as I can tell, *not one of them* has shot at him first when he fires. When there's a firefight, Han starts it. But at no time does the fight start with Han *returning* fire.

Put another way: Han Shoots First.

(At least, as far as I remember. I wasn't watching specifically for that until partway through.)

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malovich December 21 2015, 05:28:09 UTC
'My theory: I don't know who his parents or grandparents are, but his great-grandfather is one Master Mace Windu, Samuel L Jackson's character from the bad movies.'

FUCK YES I dear so hope for this.

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pappy_legba December 21 2015, 15:19:01 UTC
I'm going to give the absurdities and massive plot holes around the star-sucking planet gun a pass because symbolically (and somewhat actually) ABRAMS BLEW UP THE THE PREQUELS ( ... )

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chrisrw109 December 21 2015, 18:08:19 UTC
Only one minor quibble.

It wasn't Coruscant that blew up, it was the New Republic seat which is in a different system / planet.

I loved that actual physical sets, rather than 8000 green screen shots. It made the movie feel 100x more real to me, and added weight.

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pappy_legba December 21 2015, 18:40:26 UTC
Ah, I stand corrected. I didn't know the NR had a different capital.

I think felt like the prequels, however-- the new capital looked like something from Episode 2, down to the goofy costumes, videogame-grade lighting and of course obvious green screen shots. It was so different from the cinematography of the rest of the film that it felt pasted in from a different movie.

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andrewducker December 23 2015, 22:12:18 UTC
Yup, I'd go with all of that.

(And Abrams not understanding distance.)

It was great fun, and the bits that annoyed me were basically the same bits that annoyed you, and I can happily handwave them for the purposes of enjoying the good bits.

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theweaselking December 24 2015, 02:07:47 UTC
I just wish he'd remember *basic things*, like *there is a Star Destroyer chasing you* and *you've only been going for 3 minutes, without jumping to lightspeed* and *if the trash hauler and two other ships can home in on you because you're emitting heavily, and catch you because you're moving slowly/not moving, then SO SHOULD THE FUCKING STAR DESTROYER*.

You know how you fix that? The Falcon jumps to lightspeed (escaping the pursuing TIE fighters) and time passes. Unspecific time. Unspecific time later (a SCENE WIPE! Classic Star Wars!) they drop OUT of hyperspace because of the flooding-the-ship-with-poison-gas problem. BOOM. PROBLEM SOLVED. Disney will give you the budget for the effects, trust me.

(The script even has Finn and JakeRey convinced it's the Star Destroyer that caught them. Without bothering to explain how the Star Destroyer could possibly have NOT caught them.)

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rimrunner December 26 2015, 06:05:26 UTC
I don't know if you're on the Twitterz, but Emo Kylo Ren's Twitter feed is hilarious.

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