scout's honor, matty G (communist), and a reminder

Nov 05, 2004 13:29

Last night the entire sea-cow staff attended (seperatly) the burning love letters/scout's honor split release show. This is what i gleaned from that fateful night.
Matty G, Filthy communist dog----do yourself a favor and go read matty G's LJ. specificly,this part. Our Sea-Cow Staffer went out and fought for the for the blue collar and the man came ( Read more... )

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BLL iamhiding November 5 2004, 12:54:16 UTC
You did not write about Burning Love Letters' recording, but then you made fun of them. You could have left the entire paragraph off, but you took the oppurtunity to put Miah's vocals down and put your musical tastes higher than any hardcore music fan's tastes.

You did not write about them because frankly, you do not enjoy hardcore. If you do not enjoy hardcore, you should probably not slander a hardcore band that supports the band you like (Scout's Honor)and plays a major role in the Peoria music scene. I doubt I will read a hardcore fan's critique on the Burning Love Letters recording followed by "I did not write about Scout's Honor because I don't like them. (insert rude comment about Jared or Tom)." There is an understood respect that comes natural to most.

My comment is prolonged and exaggerated because theseacow is not a person. It is an entity that claims to somehow help the music scene. Well at least that's what I think theseacow is supposed to be. There is no way that your post has helped anyone.

And I like the backup whispy noise.

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Re: BLL theseacow November 5 2004, 13:09:02 UTC
a good point thatmade me change my post, dropping the uninformed backwards paragraph. You earned my total respect for making an extended postive comment and not a ride jab. i'll be much more thoughtful in the future.

However, I garnered (between the lines more or less) that you feel i slighted Jared and Tom also. Is this true?

I tried to make it clear that the backup noise thing was ONLY an opinion (that the entire review was/is really). I AM NOT cutting down that song! It' very well done and invokes strong feelings. I just feel that Jareds own voice and guitar/drums would have had a much deeper impact, utilizing the lo fi two man sound, rather than hide from it. i dunno. get back to me, i'm interested.

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Re: BLL iamhiding November 5 2004, 14:07:31 UTC
Thanks for understanding.

I just really like the backup whispy noise.

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Re: BLL theseacow November 5 2004, 14:35:04 UTC
i just put nic onto reviewing the BLL part, as she is a gurl who gets the hardcore business.

i like your level headedness. you ought to write w/ us sometime. i like the idea of absorbing different viewpoints.

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Re: BLL iamhiding November 6 2004, 09:16:07 UTC
That might be possible.

Tell me this, in case I've missed it completely. What is the point of The Sea Cow. What is your goal? Who is part of The Sea Cow?

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Re: BLL theseacow November 6 2004, 09:57:31 UTC
The Sea-Cow--- I've always felt that the Peoria scene is an interesting and important organism with a history all it's own. The Sea-Cow exists to uncover and expose it's roots and well as document it's growth as it happens. For some reason the PJS (and the general public at large)doesn't seem to take notice of these very interesting individuals, so it was decided we ought to do it ourselves. The scene has a spoken word history, which needs to be constantly documented, or we'll lose it. There's more to it than just scene related stuff, but this fairly general definition works for now.

Currently, the core group that makes up The Sea-Cow consists of NYC Nic, Matty G, and myself. There are others, working more behind the scenes, but I really want this to become something which a large part of the scene becomes involved with. It's non-exclusive. You called it an entity, and i like that, with any luck this will be something that the scene embraces and takes off on it's own (in some form, whether that form would be other competing zines or a continuation of what we're doing) I'm meeting with Matty G and Nic today to put together the first print issue (8 lazy months in the making). After the release of the print issue, we hope for things to snowball, and there are a lot of plans in the works.

If you're still interested, let me know and i'll keep you in the loop for upcoming stuff. It'd be great to have you in the ranks. (fuck man, this post is dragging all the lonnng comments out of me)

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Re: BLL iamhiding November 6 2004, 10:34:31 UTC
Why are you called The Sea-Cow?

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Re: BLL iamhiding November 6 2004, 10:36:17 UTC
I realize it's a manatee. But why?

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Re: BLL theseacow November 7 2004, 08:59:44 UTC
the sea-cow has a 4 year secret storied history, and the initila reason for choosing the name has been lost, forgotten, or erased. It's still used today out of respect for that which came before (and that's the staightest answer i've ever given someone who's asked me that question).

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deadbusdepot November 5 2004, 14:10:20 UTC
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say anything here, since it may appear biased, but I'm going to anyway. I think, though I'm not sure, that the True Blue background effects are a piano played the wrong way. I personally liked it, but what do I know. And I agree that the Sea-Cow should have reviewed BLL. Surely there's a memeber on the staff who does like hardcore, and if not, review them anyway. It's sort of the job of a someone who claims to support the music scene to review both sides of a split.

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good point theseacow November 5 2004, 14:24:40 UTC
I'll contact Nic or someone to reviw it. The trouble (vaguely detailed above) is that I don't understand hardcore sound i suppose, and i had posted one paragraph that was both uninformed and made me sound like an ass. But i'll see what i can do about someone else writing something. My apologies to any fans of or members of BLL, i'll se what i can do.

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Re: good point theseacow November 5 2004, 14:28:03 UTC
Also, as i said above, i too liked the anti-piano sound thing, i just felt for THIS song, it might have been more intense witout it. But then again, what do I know, and it's really no business of mine to tell anyone how to play their own personal songs, i'm just putting up my opinion for anyone to take or leave (though it should not have any effect on the goodness of the song as it is right now, cause it IS a good song).

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Re: good point matty_g November 5 2004, 14:53:47 UTC
"true blue" was originally one of jared's solo songs that he's been playing for a long time. you'd probably dig that version of it more, though he never recorded it, probably because he's actually a robot hell-bent on raising an army of disillusioned car tires to take over the white castle food franchise.

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Re: good point jaredgrabb November 6 2004, 20:17:06 UTC
FUCK YEAH, I AM!

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Re: good point deadbusdepot November 6 2004, 20:37:08 UTC
I didn't know that about you, Jared. I'm sorry.

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farfromgood November 5 2004, 20:28:21 UTC
I'm all over it. I think I'm at more hardcore shows than any of our staff... or at least I used to. I'm all over a review coming to you all sometime tonight or tomorrow. I think I might be a little to drunk to do a fair review tonight though. College life calls and all.

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