The Walking Dead: 5.04, and Signs Of A False Dawn

Nov 05, 2014 21:18

WHAT UP, ATLANTA!Well, I hope everyone out there in tv land likes Beth! They all really do, I bet. And maintaining that illusion, as well as my bloodpressure, is one of the reasons I continue to avoid any and all TWD chatter whatsoever out there on the internet. (Ahhh, sweet tranquility.) My own insta-reaction to this episode was to send the ( Read more... )

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oh god - THREE comments whut... im_ridiculous November 6 2014, 11:36:25 UTC
Because, also?!? This:

Thus, we have parallels showing super-clear contrast between a community built on the principles of giving to others, and one built on the principles of demanding from others - the fundamental question of who owes what to who. One thrives on and filters in the strengths of others (and calls the zombies "walkers"), one is threatened by and filters out the strengths of others (and calls the zombies "rotters"; ahh walker-resemblence motif, hello again).

IS ALL OF THE THINGS. ALL THESE COMPARISONS, but dude. Way to distill it, seriously. I love your brain. Don't ever change. :D

Oh! And yes all the biblical motif stuff that's cropping up now. OH! And the Peter-denies-Christ thing....... because of course... he DID have a choice, actually, Steven, as it happens... but it was the self-sacrificial one (for which he was forgiven because, y'know, that's kinda A Thing in Christianity, just sayin). But you, dear Steven.... are not much the type for the self-sacrificial, methinks. And therefore... NO FORGIVENESS FOR YOU! *slams soup window* (Kinda can't decide whether I sympathise with or loathe him.... going back and forth... thinking I'll end up erring on the side of loathe, just because he's a male character who's weak, and blah blah insert rant about fandom and weak female characters and omg i REALLY NEED TO STOP NAO.)

/werds.
/edits.

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Re: oh god - THREE comments whut... themonkeytwin November 24 2014, 05:40:57 UTC
Okay, trying to catch up before MOAR EPISODES, and because energy, but I'll just quickly start here because OMG I have no problem knowing which side I'm erring on when it comes to Steve. UGH. He made Beth into a murderer. It's not on her, at all, and at the same time, there's now blood on her hands, and especially going by Tyreese and Carol's struggles, I don't think that's something that's going to go lightly on her. (Mind you, she already got blood on her hands by her choice to obey and help hold Joan down to save her life (with the callback to the visual of blood running down her palm while her other hand stemmed the flow from her own suicide attempt), and that is on her - obeying orders doesn't stop you from being wrong in doing so.) He violated her innocence and denied her meaningful choice in order to serve himself - he may talk prettier, and justify it's so he can protect her too, and that might have been the first time he ever crossed that line, instead of just turning a blind eye or protesting ineffectually, and all those things ... but when he did that he became no better than Dawn (etc etc groups and the people within them both taking on the characteristics of their leader, etc). It was vile. By which I mean, awesome storytelling and characterisation and I love it :DDD

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