Oh ... grr. ARGH.
Or, How I Pissed Off My Entire FList (Except One And I Know Who You Are)
Yeah, so ... I saw The Avengers. Um. It was ... okay, mostly ( Read more... )
Yeah, so ... I saw The Avengers. Um. It was ... okay, mostly ( Read more... )
Not exactly what I was suggesting, though.
Oh, okay. Sorry. I think I read the earlier statement of by not having seen those two movies, I think you might have done yourself a disservice when you saw this one. Because there were wonderful character threads established in them that were picked up in this movie, and you kind of gipped yourself of the opportunity to enjoy them as implying that it could have made a difference of whether I enjoyed the movie, not whether I would enjoy it on a deeper level. Does that make sense? Gah, the perils of internet communication, with so much less context, tone, body language, and opportunity for immediate clarification!
It just seemed like you have a very high set of expectations for this movie
I actually think more of my frustration (and disquiet) came from the fact that I didn't have high expectations. But clearly they were different in nature from mainstream fandom, because that's the only way I can account for it all. Like I said, I'm really glad for fandom that so many people DID enjoy it so much.
Nor do I expect any argument or anyone else's opinion will matter much.
Well, I'm difficult that way. I don't come up with very strong opinions often, but they're that much more stubborn for it when I do. But I really honestly do appreciate your input and perspective and patience. Your (and others') enthusiasm for the other movies have made me more likely to try to see them, and who knows. Maybe that WILL make all the difference!
(I also appreciate the conversation as someone who is fascinated by the storytelling process - when others' reactions are so wildly different from mine, when what worked and what didn't and how it read came across so differently, I love to puzzle over it and figure out why. Communication between people and cultures is so fascinating.)
Anyway. <3 again. :)
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Actually I think you are the one with the patience of Job, for putting up with all my blathering. :D And here comes more.. :O
I actually think more of my frustration (and disquiet) came from the fact that I didn't have high expectations.
Orly? ;) Maybe it's a cultural thing. -->
But damnit, I paid my exorbitant ticket price, I gave up nearly three hours of my life, I kept my distance from a bunch of (probably smelly) strangers I had to sit in a darkened room with, I put my attention into the hands of Joss Whedon and his expensive spectacle and in this day and age of entertainment currency that is a damn contract. It is a contract that I will bring all these things to the table, and he will earn it.
That sounds like expectations. ;D
Are you familiar with the fate of the movie John Carter just recently? That was a sad thing. Too many folks, but most specifically, the studio itself(!) had too high expectations and just about killed what was actually a cool little sci-fi/action movie. And this is from a gal who knows the original canon well enough to nitpick the movie to death. :D
Which is really a complete side track from the current discussion. *sigh* Am prone to that.
Anything I can do to help you in your puzzling? :)
<3 for all!
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Ah. See? That was actually snark. (Annoyed snark, but snark nonetheless.) My actual, honest-to-God thought as I went up to the cinema was "Well, at least this'll be fun." Which means I took the exact same expectations in as I had for watching X-Men First Class. And The Expendables. One was good, one was bad, but fun was had either way. *shrug* I'm getting a lot of fun out of discussing it with people, so I guess I owe Joss one anyway. :)
And on that note, even these comments with discovering how things scanned for people, what bothered them and what didn't, has been awesome already. It's got to the stage where the next step is to watch some of the other movies, which I honestly don't have time for right now, to try to understand the intentions and choices by the studio/producers/filmmakers etc better, what their approach has been.
- If you were so inclined, and have the time, anything you'd feel like telling me about how the other movies specifically informed your watching/enjoyment/insight into this one would be great, actually.
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For some reason I've been grappling with running into other folks' lukewarm receptions to Cap, which has me in a slightly blue-ish funk at the moment. So, task accepted but maybe delayed.
:)
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