An update

Nov 07, 2008 10:13

For any of you who were following my debate with Josh Cobun on the issue of gay marriage and discrimination, I have just posted my rebuttal to his arguments.

Edit: I realize that not many could see this link due to not being friends with Josh, so here's my position. Sorry for the wall of text.

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mustadio November 7 2008, 20:08:59 UTC
Hey Justin; I know who Josh is; but we're not friends on facebook. So you get to read my response to what he's posted on your page instead =)

"I see nothing in this proposition but a respect for marriage, not a hatred or fear of homosexuals."

Okay; that's cool. I don't see hatred or fear explicitly stated in Prop 8 either. But you're respecting marriage by excluding homosexuality from it. Why is that? However unintended... this surely sends the message that gay marriage is, at the very least, undesirable and dishonorable.

"It stands to reason we ought to exercise some reason when we should accept something, and when we should oppose it.... It’s not some skewed homophobic position or gay hate that causes myself or people like to me vote yes on 8 (which I did), but love for the gay people and wanting to spare them form harm."I'm glad we got this out of the way; that you're consciously discriminating. But that you're not discriminating based on sexual preference. Rather, your decision stems from a love of gay people, and a desire to ( ... )

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theelectricmonk November 7 2008, 20:22:37 UTC
Yeah, after I linked it to Katie Peoples I realized that not too people were friends with both of us, so probably couldn't see the dialogue. I did notice that his argument hinged mostly on the dangers of homosexual acts and called special attention to the fact that he never mentioned anything about lesbian. Other than that, I don't think he ever mentioned romantic love, which is what marriage should really be about.

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kaypea November 8 2008, 07:52:40 UTC
Has Josh ever had a blowjob? Seriously, because according to his argument about sex that's not safe.

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theelectricmonk November 8 2008, 18:44:45 UTC
He probably hasn't. I'm betting he's like the newly-wed in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, "No! No! God put our mouths on our head for a reason!"

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slagkick November 10 2008, 04:25:31 UTC
Yeah, seriously. Girls and guys BOTH give blowjobs, so that doesn't mean they're gay. Unless you're Josh.

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