You have to admit that linguistically, they're at least interesting.

Jun 02, 2010 01:33

 Yep, that's right, I'm getting this discussion bitch started off. :D

And on that note, swearing. I've recently been pondering how to address swearing in Twilight, and I think it's time to here what you all think.

Now, SMeyers doesn't particularly have her characters swearing, but I've always had to ask myself, is that because they wouldn't swear, or ( Read more... )

discussion: fanfic trends, discussion: writing process, discussion: characterization

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audreyii_fic June 2 2010, 13:47:58 UTC
Is Stephanie dealing with swearing well, or is it something she seems to have left out because of her opinion on it?

The latter. Now, mind, given that it's a young adult novel, I can see how she won't be dropping the F-Bomb every five pages. But what I'm referring to specifically here is that "Holy crow!" nonsense. Whenever Bella said that, it actually made the narrative grind to a halt as I blinked at the page. Bella's obviously a good and proper little girl, in spite of how Meyer tries to tell us she's otherwise, so she would never even say "Holy cow!" (which would also be kinda dorky, but not screeching-to-a-halt odd). My understanding on the subject is that Holy Cow (the toned down version of Holy Crap, which is the toned down version of Holy Shit, of course) is still too blasphemous, in that it technically refers to certain Hindu beliefs as holy, or alternatively refers to the golden calf from the Old Testament as holy (I'm pretty sure it's usually mean to be the former). So "Holy cow!" is too much, and it has to be "Holy crow ( ... )

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lulu_honey June 2 2010, 17:29:52 UTC
If she was a better writer, she'd be able to give the impression of bad language without actually typing it out.

This is true. Joss Whedon does some pretty interesting thing things with language in his projects, like using "gorram" instead of "goddamn" in Firefly. "Frilly heck" is also one of my faves from BtVS.

And I think in the Harry Potter series Ron drops a few colorful phrases about Merlin's genitalia. It's all about being creative with language, sometimes just to get past the censors. And do I even need to mention the word "frak"?

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majestamoniet June 2 2010, 18:48:44 UTC
Joss Whedon > Stephanie Meyer

In fact, I don't think they even live in the same plane of existence.

(oh,fireflyimissyou)

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i_lovedyoufirst June 2 2010, 19:08:36 UTC
*insert firefly angst here*

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stigmata_crow June 2 2010, 19:11:09 UTC
Sign me up, sigh *fangirls for Jayne*

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majestamoniet June 2 2010, 19:21:23 UTC

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stigmata_crow June 2 2010, 20:40:16 UTC
<3<3<3 :D.

He's so cute when he's stupid.

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soul_beguiled June 2 2010, 23:00:13 UTC
THIS!

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dredhedred June 2 2010, 21:21:17 UTC
Joss Whedon did also throw in swear words too. I remember hearing Spike say "wanker" once and nearly fell off my chair.

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lulu_honey June 2 2010, 22:28:59 UTC
Zomg icon love! UNF the chains!!!

And yeah, I remember Joss throwing in a few rare swears, and one shocking "what the fu-cut to commercial".

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exquisite_ugly June 2 2010, 22:36:08 UTC
haha He was always using the british words for swearing. I remember wanker, bollocks, bloody hell, etc. I also remember in the last season of angel he referenced masturbating. "Tickle my willy," I believe. LOL

God, I miss that show. I loved Spike.

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dredhedred June 2 2010, 22:48:00 UTC
Ahh, Spike. He is sorely missed.

I squeeed like a proper fangirl when I met James Marsters a few years ago!


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stigmata_crow June 2 2010, 23:21:34 UTC
And now my laptop is covered in juice :(

Note, don't drink and come across funny macros.

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dredhedred June 2 2010, 23:33:57 UTC
Sorry!

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jacobsgrrrl June 3 2010, 02:06:49 UTC
Baahaahaaa. That scene was priceless!

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dredhedred June 4 2010, 21:28:11 UTC
Most scenes with Spike in are priceless ;)

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