The Order of the Phoenix

Oct 11, 2004 14:30

For the chapter with the 'honour' of the book's title, this one's fairly dull.

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merrymelody October 11 2004, 11:10:05 UTC
Love the fact that Harry expected a better welcome. I wish Snape was there to hear that. He stopped expecting any appreciation years ago.

I imagine Snape would exhibit absolutely no surprise!

I'll note here that kind of attitude is *exactly* the type of thing always ascribed to Malfoy as proof of how worthless he is, that he expects people to fall at his feet when he enters a room.

But then of course, arrogance is justified when you have something to back it up. Presumably if Malfoy was as fantastic as he thinks, all his behaviour would be okay!
And of course, Malfoy wanting respect (ie not having his name mocked, for example) is completely different to Ron and Harry wanting respect (ie not having their parents mocked, for example.) Because he doesn't deserve respect. Or something.
Like the whole 'It's wrong to be arrogantly prejudiced against Mudbloods because Hermione is really smart' message, when in fact, even if Hermione was a hopeless idiot, it still wouldn't mean hating her for her parents would be right.

That's *really* interesting, especially because I think Molly's spoiling of Harry comes from the same impulse as Petunia's waspishness: he's not her child.

Exactly. It's easy to adore Harry, he'll never resent you for shabby robes or sandwich fillings, he's heroic and charming and handsome and ever-so-brave and he saved your daughter (sure, he helped get your son's leg broken, but hey, win some lose some) and he's so famous and rich and yet tragic.
You'll never have to discipline Harry or change his nappies or be disappointed in his NEWTS.

Btw, this reminds me...people keep talking about how what Harry needs to learn is that not all Slytherins are as bad as Draco, and while I prefer all of Slytherin to be like Draco, I feel like there's something important about all these snakes.

I hate the stupid essays I see about how Slytherin is misjudged because Draco etc. are the loudest. Dude, Draco represents Slytherin. He isn't the lone outsider rebel of the house. You cannot have say, Nott come forward and join the Gryffindors and have that count as 'redeeming' Slytherin, because Nott is not its figurehead, he's its black sheep. (In that we know he's not into the gang aspect.)
I mean, we judge Gryffindor by Harry, we don't say 'Gosh, all those fiery tempers and self-righteous folk must be the loud minority, I bet they're all shy and quiet secretly.'
It's why I loathe Krum, despite him being 'deep' enough to pick Hermione over his fangirls (and gasp, actually talking to the Slytherins without later saying 'EW') - he's the 'good' Durmstranger, and so of course, he prefers Hogwarts and shuns the beliefs of presumably, his entire school and parents.
Or Hermione, the proud Muggleborn who spends all her holidays with purebloods.

Also, some people respond well to that kind of violence, strange as it seems, if that's the way they operate themselves.

Wasn't that how it worked on the giants? One killed the other and got to be leader! (I've blocked out the endless 'Hagrid's Tale so I'm not certain)

For Pete's sake, she's cleaning your house for you!
But that's not fuuuuuunnnnnnn!

Yeah, you can't die 'for' someone or get into a fight cleaning house!

Only he doesn't fight Voldemort all the way because he shows love to Harry by letting him do it himself.

I love how in the first book, Harry's all 'Gosh, he let me fight Quirrell all by myself, he must really respect me!'
He thought an eleven year old.
Could fight the strongest most evil wizard ever. Alone.
*brains malfunctions and dies*

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sistermagpie October 12 2004, 07:22:56 UTC
Wasn't that how it worked on the giants? One killed the other and got to be leader! (I've blocked out the endless 'Hagrid's Tale so I'm not certain)

Oh my god.

I just realized we're going to get to that chapter and I will have to read it again.

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merrymelody October 12 2004, 07:26:58 UTC
Hahahahahaha, I can't wait personally!
I'm hoping someone will design me a layout with the whole thing emblazoned over it, maybe a Hagrid mood theme and icon set?
It was so tight and gripping, after all, and set the scene for Grawp, who was endlessly fascinating!
(Actually, Stellamaru wrote eerily canonical Hagrid/Grawp...)

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mirabellawotr October 12 2004, 07:59:45 UTC
Courage. That's why we're all doing this together.

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