After all these years and its still the same thing...

[the_ritalin_kid]

...I still suck at drawing the male physique. Not so much necessarily in a life class sort of way- though the basic rudiments are important. I mean in an illustrations, comic art sort of way. And its nearly always the same bit- the waist, hips, and everything below that. *dong dong dong*

So here I am now, sat here with four different windows open and several visual references open, trying to work it out, and still failing. D'oh.

Anyone have any suggestions?