Krugman on whether the rich really need the rest of us

Mar 11, 2012 14:30


By Gaius Publius on 3/11/2012 09:15:00 AM

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Paul Krugman has a nice column on Republican attitudes on education, contrasting "social conservative" Santorum's approach with "economic conservative" Romney's. I'll let you go read; it's excellent.

But I want to point out the following (my emphasis):
But what about ( Read more... )

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ragnarok20 March 12 2012, 09:00:07 UTC
It'ts like Lysander Spooner said in his, "1837 Letter to the Massachusette['s Legislature," when he argue that, "I can imagine none advocating, at least in direct terms, so monstrous a that the rich ought to be protected from the poor." So if you are going to bitch about the disparity of wealth in this country, you have to recognize that it is primiarily government which creates it through their legislation or regulation because it ccreates price floors that prohibit the poor from starting business. There's a reason, after all, why Wal-Mart supported minimum wage hikes. They knew that their competition wouldn't be able to sort out the differences and would have to deal with the requisite costs of hiring more businesses. On the otherhan,l Wal-Mart knew that they could absorb the costs of business thus effectively pushing their smaller competitors out of business.

The fucked up thing is that it happens every time. The false consciousness of the proletariat doesn't come through the belief that material goods will bring them happiness, but in the idea that the state can bring them happiness. The people need to fulfill their owwn needs on their own without the benefit of theindustrialized system.

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without the benefit of theindustrialized system nebris March 12 2012, 09:30:55 UTC
Sorry, but Neo-Primitive Libertarianism is another dead end ideological delusion.

~M~

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Re: without the benefit of theindustrialized system ragnarok20 March 12 2012, 11:23:24 UTC
It's funny that you see comments as being libertarian when my concern for the distribution of wealth makes me a liberalterian (in other words, a jackalope). you are completely stuck in your ossified political spectrum and it prevents you from accurately engaging another person's philosophy.

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you are completely stuck in your ossified political spectrum nebris March 12 2012, 11:25:07 UTC
hahahahahahahahaha

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Re: you are completely stuck in your ossified political spectrum ragnarok20 March 12 2012, 11:32:07 UTC
My impression is that yer only engagement with libertarianism is with the vulgar variety, that which is based in simplistic views and consequently your responses to it are exceedingly simplistic. It's unfortunate.

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Re: you are completely stuck in your ossified political spectrum nebris March 12 2012, 11:35:02 UTC
Vulgar or sublime, you're all slaves to the Cult of The Individual and therefore easy meat for any Organization.

~M~

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Re: you are completely stuck in your ossified political spectrum ragnarok20 March 12 2012, 11:44:10 UTC
So, you copypasta shit, right? Also, you are way to caught up in how awesome you think you are. "Look, here's a link to my blog which you should read because I'm awesome and gots it all figured out."

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caught up in how awesome you think you are nebris March 12 2012, 11:46:03 UTC
I'm always right and I never lie. =)

~M~

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Re: you are completely stuck in your ossified political spectrum nebris March 12 2012, 11:38:44 UTC
And I laughed because my world view is WAY outside the current 'political spectrum'.

Here, I lay it on ya and get it over with: http://theexplanation-nebris.blogspot.com/

You'll likely dismiss it, but that's fine. You're not my target demographic anyway. =)

~M~

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