A glimpse of the sort of world we'll have after all this is over

[badnewswade]

This is so cool it makes me want to cum in my pants:

Can Saharan Solar Power Save Europe?

Solar Industry: The Stage Is Set For A Global RecoveryIMHO this is why we in the UK need to cling to Europe like a dying man... Anglo-Americans will never dominate the world again, our time in the sun is over and our economies and political systems are

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Sorry about the poetry

[badnewswade]

As for the UK's day in the sun, it was fine as long as we amalgamated with the US into a geopolitical entity I like to call USUK (as in "YouSuck", lols). USUK worked well, there was oil and gas, there was financial trading, there was culture and technology, there was military might and weapons of unimaginable destructive power, there was access to the resources of the Commonwealth and to the Continental US. There were holidays in the sun, Disneyland and Nylon, jet planes, television and computers, hamburgers and rock 'n roll.

Then we got pwned by reality as our economic systems were revealed to have been entirely underpinned by North Sea Oil, and trad imperialism, Saudi Arabia and hot printing presses at the Mint. A huge Ponzi scheme of an economy that had to collapse because it was based on the shifting sands of pure bullshit - the Laffer curve and TINA, immortalized by that horrible couple Reagan and Thatcher who eviscrated an already shakey transatlantic economy. Yeah, we won the cold war, but Thatcher was secretly horrified as it meant the Germans were back and we didn't have any Red Menace to be afraid of. What would we do without our beloved enemies? Sic transit gloria mundi, across the lone and the level shifting sands. The answer was splattered all over the deserts of Sourthern Iraq / Kuwait for a while, but military Keynsianism only takes you so far. Eventually those Arabs got their own back, but worse than that, reality mugged us once again as the free market economic miracle once more ran out of steam.

And here we all are; in the aftermath of the duopoly of the Boy King and a pathological narcissist, ruled by a one eyed depressive here in the minor province and sharks in suits over in the American metropole. I guess this is the end of a beautiful friendship, all we have to do is survive the next Tory administration and we can beg the Europeans for a handout, but the Americans... wow, you guys are so screwed it's not even funny.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[underlankers]

The rise of the United States was caused by the lucky circumstances that places that were on the average wealthier and more important than North America were either facing de-colonization and the disruptions that involved, devastated by WWII as in the case of Europe and China, or alternately the US's informal empire as with Latin America.

The UK had already lost its position of global hegemony under the debt burden to the United States and the special relationship was never a partnership of equals.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[badnewswade]

Well of course not! But it worked. For a bit...

Learn from history or become it, the Germans and - my God - the Spanish! look like they may become masters of the new energy technology because they sensibly kept out of stupid wars and trying to run the world, and concentrated on actually making stuff that people want. Lesson for all of us there...

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[underlankers]

Er.....did you just say that the Germans kept out of stupid wars? Did you happen to forget about the first half of the 20th century?

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[badnewswade]

That's what I meant by "learning from history", sorry I didn't make that clear. After the 1940s the Germans learned from history, stopped trying to take over the world and - surprise surprise - did really well. NATO helped of course, but that was a purely defensive alliance.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[volksjager]

Britain was finished,totally finished after world war 2. Yikes.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[badnewswade]

It was badly screwed but it still had a future. Some of the most valued UK institutions were invented after WW2, like the NHS and the concept of social democracy.

Also we got a north sea oil bonanza in the 80s that paid for our Ponzi-economy.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[volksjager]

Finished,done...over.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[badnewswade]

Nah, I date the beginning of the end for the UK at around 1982, certainly no earlier than 1979. Thatcher withdrew picket ships from the Falkland Islands which caused a war, which guaranteed re-election for her, while at the same time the Labour party was putting the finishing touches to its suicide note election manifesto. Beginning of the end; if we hadn't had a decade of Thatcherism we'd still be in with a chance, as it is we can't go back and we can't go forwards.

If you're American, head for the border. If you're British, buy an acre of ground and a caravan, 'cause that's about all that we're gonna be able to afford to do - live in shacks and cycle to work at the Workfare Centre.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[volksjager]

I am Scandinavian . We are fine.

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[badnewswade]

Yeah, if you're still living in New Hampshire, United States like your profile says you might want to keep yer passport and some cash handy though, lols

Seriously though, what do you think of America? Is it anything like as hellish as the media makes it out to be, what with all the crazed horse shit on Fox News and the vast, stifling poverty in the other media it doesn't sound like a fun place to be, although I suppose it is very big....

Re: Sorry about the poetry

[volksjager]

The people are obese and the children are all spoiled. The leveling wind has truly arrived here.

Nowhere to run, pal...you're next

[nebris]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6744787/Its-a-return-to-the-Star-Chamber-as-Europe-finally-tramples-Magna-Carta-into-the-dust.html

Re: Nowhere to run, pal...you're next

[badnewswade]

Oh, thats a load of old crap. Pretty rich coming from a Tory paper actually - It was the Conservatives that started all this shit of taking away all our rights (The "right to silence", which is like the 5th Amendment in America, was abolised back in 1994). Since 9/11 as with everywhere else, the governments been able to do pretty much whatever the hell it likes anyway.

If anything being in Europe gives us rights, for instance the EU has a charter on human rights which the government HATES, almost every piece of legislation they sign involves some sort of star chamber. Just about any official down to the level of dog catcher has the right to bug you - they even put bugs in peoples rubbish bins at one point cos of recycling - and follow you around, (they tail people for equally petty reasons).

Under the aptly named RIP act you can be sent to jail not only for refusing to give the authorities your email password but also for telling people that you have been placed under surveillance, and now they're talking about giving away the right to freeze people's bank accounts to just about any jobsworth who wants it. So one day you're fine and the next you're peniless and about to lose your home because a small discrepancy in your local taxes has led to some minor, petty official holding your current account, mortgage and savings accounts hostage. Nice.

Furthermore, many, many of our population are poor and subject to draconian policing of their dole - but you have similar unconstitutional scams in your country. Our constitution was never much more than bumwad anyway; a medieval, outdated figleaf for an ever more out of control series of mad kings, crazed executives and blinkered petty bureaucrats who can do whatever they like - and bloody well know it.

To conclude: That article is just a load of partisan politcial bollox, we lost all our rights years ago and the state can do whatever it wants.