Considering you went to the effort of creating an account to tell us we suck and that you want some sort of abject apology for telling you you were kind of an asshole, I sincerely doubt that you'll be added back to the community. We were trying to put this whole little shitfit behind us; thanks for dragging it back up. Seriously. All of the mods have AIM and email; couldn't you take up your issues privately? Or at least in the respectful manner that kawaiikingyo did here? Really. I mean, if you don't like the way that the comm is going, fine. You're totally free to feel that way and to express it. But the way you did it was REALLY harsh and inappropriate. I thought we could NOT be judgmental asses here. Apparently I was wrong.
hmm, maybe i didnt type it, but i said that im not looking to be added back. the "shitfit" isnt over, and i thought it quite immature to be banned before adding my opinion. being banned for voicing my opinion got me banned, and i couldnt defend my opinion. abbacat said it more bluntly and i did, and i see no offensive nature taken towards that post (not that im looking for it, but its just an observation) How was my original post harsh and inappropriate? I am voicing my opinion, not being a judgemental ass. Maybe i didnt like the fact that i have no control over anything here (which was odd because i co-created this but oh well) and i felt that running a softcore porn ring was inappropriate for a nerdy site. There is tastefully sexy and hot. I guarantee i mnot the only one who knows that. And by the way, i did know that the mods have AIM, however, i had to dig through and decode sogi's info and go through his personal site to find a screen name. chemchick's AIM name is absent from her info too. maybe im blind but i see no screen name
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ok, while I think that the way this user went about expressing his/her opinion was "harsh and inapporpriate", I also think people were equally harsh and inappropriate about NOT listening to it and bashing it. I actually went back and looked at some of the pictures that I didn't have time to view before and was not pleased to see the excessive nudity in some of them. (although several expressed nudity in an artistic/beautiful way.) But that's besides the point. Nudity or not, everyone in the community is entitled to an opinion. I can see why this person got so emotional about it, too...imagine if you created something, it got big and cool, then you noticed it starting to get not-so-cool and then everyone turned on you and hated you. That SUCKS. I know this is just a livejournal community, not a real life group/club, but it's still a not so much fun feeling to have. I think banning this person was a bit overboard. This should have been discussed over e-mail and AIM, for sure, but banning was not the right way to go. Just my opinion.
i will bow down to this. i still dont understand the harshness, however it probably was inappropriate. But banned or not, i will still loom in the corners
I'll second that--I thought that the opinion could have been expressed in a less inflammatory manner, too. (kawaiikingyo *did* set a good example for how to do that) However, I think that banning reads a bit like a we-hate-everyone-that-doesn't-agree-with-us kind of move, which hopefully isn't what our mods are aiming for. It could have been dealt with differently, for certain.
Temporary banning seems reasonable. I also agree that the situation was likely to get out of hand. Really, that's why *any* good, functional online community needs moderators--for situations like this.
Maybe a private message to banned users, explaining why and for how long they're being banned, would be in order in the future?
I agree. I should have notified him, but I was worried he would create an alias and come back with a vengence. There's a lot of people that I know wouldn't stay put when it came down to a flame war (myself included).
But he's unbanned and I have no hard feelings towards him. I just wanted everything to STOP and I think it pretty much has.
Um, well, by not notifying me (which i question if you even would have unbanned me had i not made a fuss) i was forced to create an alias to voice my opinion. I was forced to create the alias because i could not defend myself from the brutal bashings i recieved in the original post. The entry was made as an observation, not as a "you're ugly and i want to puke speech" i do value the human body, being one who doesnt have a perfect body to begin with, and i was happy to see people participating, however, some of the pictures had nothing to do with nerdiness (not that they had to) but then again, they should.
Listen, I have no reason to ban you forever from this community. I thought you were a bit sharp and, honestly, the fact that me in a bikini caused you to feel dirty is a bit unreasonable and your post made that quite evident.
I banned you and had every intention to unban you when everything wound down this evening (you can ask sogi). I don't care that you had an opinion about being disgusted by the community, what I care about is that you might have offended people who had body issues and had told me they were worried about posting and I had assured them that NO ONE in their RIGHT MIND would comment negatively against them. And then YOU did.
You didn't even need to make this post for me to reinstate you as being not banned.
that certainly would have been nice, because then i would have known i would be able to defend myself from the scourging i recieved instead of creating an alias to post my *extended* opinion.
I agree. We should all get over ourselves. While what he said may have been inappropriate to begin with, the responses given have been just as bad or worse. Banning was not the way to go.
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I can see why this person got so emotional about it, too...imagine if you created something, it got big and cool, then you noticed it starting to get not-so-cool and then everyone turned on you and hated you. That SUCKS. I know this is just a livejournal community, not a real life group/club, but it's still a not so much fun feeling to have.
I think banning this person was a bit overboard. This should have been discussed over e-mail and AIM, for sure, but banning was not the right way to go. Just my opinion.
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Maybe a private message to banned users, explaining why and for how long they're being banned, would be in order in the future?
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But he's unbanned and I have no hard feelings towards him. I just wanted everything to STOP and I think it pretty much has.
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I banned you and had every intention to unban you when everything wound down this evening (you can ask sogi). I don't care that you had an opinion about being disgusted by the community, what I care about is that you might have offended people who had body issues and had told me they were worried about posting and I had assured them that NO ONE in their RIGHT MIND would comment negatively against them. And then YOU did.
You didn't even need to make this post for me to reinstate you as being not banned.
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