Tia Dalma as Jack's mother is an intriguing idea, and would confound the racism charge, among other things. Yes, I can see that.
Re: Elizabeth and clothing, by and large, what you said, though I have a slightly different take on this:
Norrington appears rather unimpressed by her in one scene on board of the ship mocking her about not getting what Jack did to her "latest fiancee".
Ah, but does she at any point try to charm Norrington? She does not. She treats him like a comrade (stopping him from taking on the tavern drunk, getting him out of the mud), and he no longer treats her like his (ex-)fiance or indeed "a lady" with all the society politeness that entails; they're outside their previous gender and society dictated roles.
Fainting to gain the attention of "her" men no longer does the trick either.True, though I see the point of that scene coming after: because Elizabeth then goes off to do her own thing and since she can't stop the male posturing doesn't bother to witness it any longer, either, when there are more
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Oops, I only friendslocked this entry! I'm actually still working on it, adding some more point to it. Will hide it for now and then make it public later on.
You make a good point about Elizabeth and I totally agree. She wants to join the men's world, but doesn't manage it here. She's not silly enough to do so or doesn't match their testosterone level. I think that it's painful for her to have the feeling that she is not the center of attention for once, but she then does her own thing.
Don't forget why she makes the fake fainting attempt to begin with: not because she wants their attention, but because she wants to break up the fight. Must say, amusing as it was, I was completely with her there. She also seemed less pained than annoyed it didn't work.
Have you read this essay? I got the link yesterday, and it makes some great arguments about point of view in the saga...
I'm with you all the way (except, I'm sorry to say, on the point of Tia Dalma being Jack's mother, although I have to admit it would be fascinating
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Tia Dalma: I'd be happiest if we didn't find out one way or another. I won't cry bitter tears if Tia is not Jack's mother, but it would be so very interesting if she was. It would also explain a lot about Jack
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Yep. *g* If you check my memory section, you will find lots and lots of entries regarding Buffy and Angel. I posted reviews for basically all episodes of "Buffy" beginning with season 2. Right now, I'm in the middle of season 6 and only slowly catching up - due to distractions like POTC and a busy RL. For "Angel", I've got reviews for seasons 1 and 2 and some for season 3.
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Re: Elizabeth and clothing, by and large, what you said, though I have a slightly different take on this:
Norrington appears rather unimpressed by her in one scene on board of the ship mocking her about not getting what Jack did to her "latest fiancee".
Ah, but does she at any point try to charm Norrington? She does not. She treats him like a comrade (stopping him from taking on the tavern drunk, getting him out of the mud), and he no longer treats her like his (ex-)fiance or indeed "a lady" with all the society politeness that entails; they're outside their previous gender and society dictated roles.
Fainting to gain the attention of "her" men no longer does the trick either.True, though I see the point of that scene coming after: because Elizabeth then goes off to do her own thing and since she can't stop the male posturing doesn't bother to witness it any longer, either, when there are more ( ... )
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You make a good point about Elizabeth and I totally agree. She wants to join the men's world, but doesn't manage it here. She's not silly enough to do so or doesn't match their testosterone level. I think that it's painful for her to have the feeling that she is not the center of attention for once, but she then does her own thing.
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Have you read this essay? I got the link yesterday, and it makes some great arguments about point of view in the saga...
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Will friend you back.
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p.s. Will get back to the Jossverse soon, but still have to work off my POTC fascination. :-)
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(Are you into the Jossverse too, like Buffy? *looking at above commentary*)
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If you check my memory section, you will find lots and lots of entries regarding Buffy and Angel.
I posted reviews for basically all episodes of "Buffy" beginning with season 2. Right now, I'm in the middle of season 6 and only slowly catching up - due to distractions like POTC and a busy RL.
For "Angel", I've got reviews for seasons 1 and 2 and some for season 3.
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