I'm guessing Alice is talking about that thing with some guy basically telling some cosplayer girl that he thinks most girls are full of drama and so he doesn't want to be friends with them, while at the same time hitting on her. She gets pissy (logical reaction - dissing girls in general while talking to a girl - not sure how he expected anything else), guy gets mad and suggestions violence toward women.
Instead of talking to police, girl spams internet. This results in other girls trolling said guy, just making things worse. (If anything, giving him more reason he should hate women)
What kinda bugs me most about the whole thing is that _both_ sides IMO are in the wrong. But I feel in most venues you can't say that without being attacked because it's wrong to "blame the victim", even if you're really blaming both sides. (and really that's a problem with arguments everywhere - why must it be A vs B if they both suck?)
But FB has such crazy high level of noise vs worthwhile content. I don't know how this case is any different. I agree - it's best features are messages & events.
that drama thing, plus the guy taking a butt shot of some random cosplayer walking around, plus some other random things about guys generally being pretty normal and not harmful at all and girls not just complaining, but calling on the internet, the police, and their social circles to enact "justice". it was worse for tenshiyaki than myself because she is friends with the social circles (cosplayers and artists) who will, naturally, side with the girl (their friend) in whatever disagreement/argument.
(edited to clarify subjective nature of justice in this context, names)
Oh... actually I don't know about that event. It really sounds like he was awkwardly trying to compliment her and make her feel special but failing pretty badly. -_-;; Honestly, I kind of wish I could teach guys (this isn't even limited to otaku/nerds anymore) how to talk to girls because they seem to be doing worse and worse. OH WAIT... is this the guy whose pf pic is in a military uniform?
Yes, that is also often the case. It really makes me lose faith in humanity lol.
I'm mostly just talking about my social circle. It just seems that my assortment of fb friends include many who subscribe to a certain more liberal train of thought and are especially inflamed whenever "womens' rights" events come up. Actually in terms of politics/news/misc info posted, I have very little issue with it because it apparently doesn't have as much popularity.
Sometimes, I feel like people just comment to be like, "Yeah of course I support you/am not sexist!" It was like the hoodie thing with Travon Martin... it was hard to tell who was genuinely sympathetic, and who was just, "look at me, I'm wearing a hoodie so therefore I'm totally not racist!" It may be subconscious on some level, and I'm sure some people honestly feel as strongly as they appear to, but I think a lot of it is over-dramatized for this reason.
It's as you say, you can't say what you want without being accused of something. Yes, there is a culture of victim blaming (like in the case of those high school football players), but you can't excuse the woman just because she was the girl in the situation. If both sides are to blame, then that's how it is. Well, this is the most I'm hearing about the situation (from you) but it sounds like she's proving his point.
Yes, FB noise... and friends aside, I have my mother re-posting 10 items a day, so I really don't read my facebook feed...
I'm guessing Alice is talking about that thing with some guy basically telling some cosplayer girl that he thinks most girls are full of drama and so he doesn't want to be friends with them, while at the same time hitting on her. She gets pissy (logical reaction - dissing girls in general while talking to a girl - not sure how he expected anything else), guy gets mad and suggestions violence toward women.
Instead of talking to police, girl spams internet. This results in other girls trolling said guy, just making things worse. (If anything, giving him more reason he should hate women)
What kinda bugs me most about the whole thing is that _both_ sides IMO are in the wrong. But I feel in most venues you can't say that without being attacked because it's wrong to "blame the victim", even if you're really blaming both sides. (and really that's a problem with arguments everywhere - why must it be A vs B if they both suck?)
But FB has such crazy high level of noise vs worthwhile content. I don't know how this case is any different. I agree - it's best features are messages & events.
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(edited to clarify subjective nature of justice in this context, names)
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Yes, that is also often the case. It really makes me lose faith in humanity lol.
I'm mostly just talking about my social circle. It just seems that my assortment of fb friends include many who subscribe to a certain more liberal train of thought and are especially inflamed whenever "womens' rights" events come up. Actually in terms of politics/news/misc info posted, I have very little issue with it because it apparently doesn't have as much popularity.
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Sometimes, I feel like people just comment to be like, "Yeah of course I support you/am not sexist!" It was like the hoodie thing with Travon Martin... it was hard to tell who was genuinely sympathetic, and who was just, "look at me, I'm wearing a hoodie so therefore I'm totally not racist!" It may be subconscious on some level, and I'm sure some people honestly feel as strongly as they appear to, but I think a lot of it is over-dramatized for this reason.
It's as you say, you can't say what you want without being accused of something. Yes, there is a culture of victim blaming (like in the case of those high school football players), but you can't excuse the woman just because she was the girl in the situation. If both sides are to blame, then that's how it is. Well, this is the most I'm hearing about the situation (from you) but it sounds like she's proving his point.
Yes, FB noise... and friends aside, I have my mother re-posting 10 items a day, so I really don't read my facebook feed...
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