Avoir réponse à tout, deuxwahcrysobMarch 3 2007, 21:58:20 UTC
But humanity has a really hard time not looking around and trying to make sense of things, and this is where science comes into play. As more and more of the universe is opened up for us to ponder and, more importantly, study, we need increasingly complex systems in order to understand what is becoming an increasingly complex universe. Science changes very quickly and very easily to do just that, it allows us to investigate the world around us. Occasionally, what we learn makes us rethink our religion in order for it to function which is totally acceptable.
As far as atheism goes, I'm a very laid back atheist, I like religion, I know what good things it's capable of, it's jut not for me. As far as I'm concerned, religion is a tool to make life easier, to give people something to cling too when things go bad and to make themselves feel better. As such, religion is a creation of humanity and is subservient to humanity's needs, and must change as humanity sees fit, namely to change with the times.
To summarize, both Erik and D make good points, although I agree with Erik's humanist angle very, very much. I do have to say though, to Erik in particular, that I've never seen you as an atheist so much as an agnostic. You have to think carefully about the terms, as atheism implies a rejection of all spiritual systems, and the belief that there is no higher power whatsoever. Essentially, being an atheist means saying that there is "absolutely no God at all for sure." Although the FSM is probably the True Faith if there were one.
Re: Avoir réponse à tout, deuxteera67March 4 2007, 23:12:34 UTC
Religion is such a huge argument, cuz there are so many sides to it. So many things to take into account. There is so much I want to say, and comment on, and all I can think about is how cool Jasons title looks. :) So let me just say I enjoy sharing my point of view and, reading your's and Eriks point of view, and even though I disagree with many things and agree with many also.
As far as atheism goes, I'm a very laid back atheist, I like religion, I know what good things it's capable of, it's jut not for me. As far as I'm concerned, religion is a tool to make life easier, to give people something to cling too when things go bad and to make themselves feel better. As such, religion is a creation of humanity and is subservient to humanity's needs, and must change as humanity sees fit, namely to change with the times.
To summarize, both Erik and D make good points, although I agree with Erik's humanist angle very, very much. I do have to say though, to Erik in particular, that I've never seen you as an atheist so much as an agnostic. You have to think carefully about the terms, as atheism implies a rejection of all spiritual systems, and the belief that there is no higher power whatsoever. Essentially, being an atheist means saying that there is "absolutely no God at all for sure." Although the FSM is probably the True Faith if there were one.
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