Pleasant Grove City, UT v. Summum (10 commandments++)
Oh the places we will go and the law suits we will see....
Pleasant Grove City, UT is being sued by The Church of Summum. If the mormons got to donate a "ten commandments" monument to the city for placement in the park in 1971, why can't they donate their sacred seven aphorisms today? So those who fled west to escape persecution are now persecuting the next wave of religions, and this case decides the ground rules for these sorts of things.
http://www.scotuswiki.com/index.php?title=Pleasant_Grove_City%2C_UT_v._Summum
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/washington/11sect.html?ei=5070&emc=eta1
The US Supreme Court will be hearing arguments Wednesday Nov 12th, 2008. Given the conservative bent of the current court, this is going to be very interesting. Me, I see it like this, things placed in public commons are effectively government speech and I think the same standards should apply as for any government speech. Sorry guys, this has to go.
If they let the summum monument stay, I think we need to make a list of all parks this precedent will apply to and create a fund to make "The Second 10 Commandments, as per Exodus 34" statues and place them in parks. For verily I say unto you, Moses got tweaked and broke the first ten, but later god made him another 10, exactly like the first, for very small values of exactly:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2020;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2034;&version=31;
I've had problems with online bibles before, so take the above search with a grain of salt, or better
yet, grab your favorite bible and compare the first set of ten commandments in Exodus 20 with the second set in Exodus 34. My favorites are such classic commandments as:
- Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
- Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast.
- Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk.
Oh yeah baby, blessed be the flying spaghetti monster, may he touch you with his noodly appendage.
http://www.venganza.org/
Pleasant Grove City, UT is being sued by The Church of Summum. If the mormons got to donate a "ten commandments" monument to the city for placement in the park in 1971, why can't they donate their sacred seven aphorisms today? So those who fled west to escape persecution are now persecuting the next wave of religions, and this case decides the ground rules for these sorts of things.
http://www.scotuswiki.com/index.php?title=Pleasant_Grove_City%2C_UT_v._Summum
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/washington/11sect.html?ei=5070&emc=eta1
The US Supreme Court will be hearing arguments Wednesday Nov 12th, 2008. Given the conservative bent of the current court, this is going to be very interesting. Me, I see it like this, things placed in public commons are effectively government speech and I think the same standards should apply as for any government speech. Sorry guys, this has to go.
If they let the summum monument stay, I think we need to make a list of all parks this precedent will apply to and create a fund to make "The Second 10 Commandments, as per Exodus 34" statues and place them in parks. For verily I say unto you, Moses got tweaked and broke the first ten, but later god made him another 10, exactly like the first, for very small values of exactly:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2020;&version=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2034;&version=31;
I've had problems with online bibles before, so take the above search with a grain of salt, or better
yet, grab your favorite bible and compare the first set of ten commandments in Exodus 20 with the second set in Exodus 34. My favorites are such classic commandments as:
- Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
- Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast.
- Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk.
Oh yeah baby, blessed be the flying spaghetti monster, may he touch you with his noodly appendage.
http://www.venganza.org/