Aversion to Risk

Sep 16, 2007 14:09

It's all a function of aversion to risk. All animals have a built in aversion to risk that over time gets honed and refined by their environment. If you learn that you can run a read light 99 times out of a hundred and not get caught, you will run them more often ( Read more... )

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nausved September 16 2007, 19:39:47 UTC
I don't know that I would call guns equalizers: criminals will still have the upper hand.

Firstly, people who intend to use guns will be much more likely to be good at using guns than people who keep them around for emergency use; that is, the average criminal will be a better gunslinger than the average non-criminal ( ... )

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techaholic September 16 2007, 20:03:47 UTC
Domestic Violence is almost always a bare handed crime. suicide is a result of depression, not guns. there are hundreds of ways to off oneself with household items. anyone with access to a car or a kitchen knife or a belt could take themselves out of the gene pool without wasting a bullet ( ... )

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nausved September 16 2007, 20:48:51 UTC
Domestic violence does occasionally involve guns and I would imagine that in households where guns are more accessible, domestic violence via guns would increase. Abusive relationships might also become more severe, as abused family members may be more afraid to seek help ( ... )

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techaholic September 17 2007, 00:23:19 UTC
I understand your point about training, and I encourage such voluntary behavior, but I don't believe that people should need a license to drive a car either. and I think that driving lessons should start (voluntarily mind you) at about age ten, in the form of go-carts. the physics lessons you learn on a go cart track do transfer to the road. The earlier you learn these skills, the more ingrained in your overall thought process they become.

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nausved September 17 2007, 00:48:38 UTC
I am in favor of licenses being required for behavior that creates a high risk for the safety of others (shooting, driving, etc.) or for the wellbeing of society (clearcutting, building construction, etc.), since people and businesses are generally unable to regulate themselves without putting themselves at a disadvantage to those who do not regulate themselves. The tragedy of the commons and all of that.

That being said, your go-cart idea is awesome! Also, video games--where you rack up points for following traffic laws, maintaining control of your vehicle during bad weather, and driving defensively when amongst people who don't follow the traffic laws. I think people would have a much, much easier time learning traffic laws interactively than by passively reading a boring book.

Also, courses on basic car maintenance, recognition of symptoms, and tips on buying cars/buying insurance/etc. would be helpful.

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techaholic September 17 2007, 00:57:08 UTC
TREEHUGGER!!!11!!1!!!!one!!!!

I like trees too, but I like my rights to clear cut my land more. If I own it, why should someone else be allowed to tell me when, where, and what I can do to it?

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nausved September 17 2007, 03:15:34 UTC
I don't mean people like you; if you were to cut down all the trees in your yard, that would hardly count as "clearcutting".

I'm mostly talking about developers, who wipe out acres and acres of trees. This causes huge problems for everyone else. Woods protect the soil, cleanse the air of pollutants, are important carbon dioxide sinks, and house wild animals. When you remove large numbers of trees, you fill streams with topsoil (which is the #1 killer of endangered fish species in the U.S.), cause problem animals like snakes and opossums to evacuate into people's yards, etc., etc. It's just a big mess.

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techaholic September 17 2007, 05:19:39 UTC
It might be a big mess, but that developer is still the owner of that land and should still have the right to cut down all the trees on it. I'm sorry if it hurts the fish and the snakes, I am an animal lover, but I personally do not think that is more important than human property ownership rights. Changing the environment of the river might make it less habitable by the current residents, but other creatures may prefer it top-soily. Nature has always found a way to adapt.

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nausved September 17 2007, 11:33:36 UTC
It's not that it's merely bad for the animals. It's bad for us! We depend on the environment; we are just as much a part of it as any bird or reptile. Those fish provide food for us and food for other animals that provide food for us. They keep down the populations of animals we don't like, such as mosquitos. In some cases, like the salmon in Alaska, the decline of the number of fish coming in to spawn is actually killing forests, since those forests have depended on masses of dead fish for their nutrition for thousands of years; we need these forests, not only for wood, but to control climate change and loss of topsoil. The ecosystem is a very, very complex thing; anything you change here will affect countless other things, whether positively or negatively as far as humans are concerned ( ... )

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techaholic September 18 2007, 02:24:16 UTC
WE do not depend on the river for our fish, most of our fish either come from the ocean (from large fishing nets) or from farms. and why should I need a license (presumably from the government) to say that my project has the stamp of approval. That's not how it's supposed to be. If I can haphazardly and those actions result in your plants dieing, then the burden of proof should fall on you to show causation. not me to show ahead of time that it won't. what if I were to get that certification and your plants still die? obviously it isn't my fault, I got rubber stamped by the best cronies money can buy ( ... )

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nausved September 18 2007, 12:15:54 UTC
Although I agree with you in theory, I'm trying to look at things from a practical standpoint. In the ideal world, everyone should be allowed to drive drunk, and only those who cause wrecks should be punished.

But that's not a very realistic way to approach it. If you are killed by a drunk driver, you're dead. That's it. It's over. Whether or not the culprit is caught and punished, you're still dead.

It's in our best interests to curb high-risk behavior before the damage is done. I know it doesn't sound as pleasant, but that's the way the world works. In theory, there are a lot of things we should be doing differently. But, in practice, it doesn't always work; there are too many variables we are not accounting for.

The 10th Amendment states this:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved for the States respectively, or to the people.That does not mean that rights not addressed in the Constitution are necessarily reserved to the people; it means that the ( ... )

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