Never in an in-depth conversation.

Mar 18, 2005 08:54

Jamie: the only think I know for certain is nothing in life is for certain

Me: schh
"The only thing constant is change"

Jamie: ew yeah
and time

Me: never
never is time constant

Jamie: wait no

Me: haha

Jamie: time is a concept
its possibly not even real

Me:it can't really be a word
what we think of when we say tiem
is too complicated to be a word
it's like a dimensionjohnson

Jamie: ew hahaha

Me: it's more extreme than our physical dimensions
it's a mentaljimmy

Jamie: its the fourth dimension

Me: I don't think so

Jamie: its not phsyical

Me: yea
that's why I think it shouldn't go with the others
it's way more extreme
and complex

Jamie: ew yeah

Me: because
our minds can't move
can't be measured
in width length and depth

Jamie: thats not what time is
time is to hard to even explain
there's no real definition

Me: 's no real definition
that's because we don't understand it

Jamie: exactly

Me: i mean that's why we can't explain it
but then again
you can't explain the 3 other dimensions
to a blind person
it's impossible
just like you can't explain colour to a blind person
you just have to see it
and understand it
i mean even by touch
you still won't understand it
that's like how we are
we know it's there but we don't exactly understand

Jamie: you can't touch time
you can't hear it
you sorta can see it

Me: we know it's there though
whatever we think it is

Jamie: yeah

Me: we just have a misconception of it
do you think time travel is possible?

Jamie: hell it hasn't been proven impossible so yeah
I think it could be

Me: the only thing
is
the transition
from traveling in just the time dimension
to the 3 dimensional physical world
that's the only thing that would make it impossible
becaus
when you're traveling you can't possibly be traveling in the physical
i mena
because
you could
but
if you were
it'd be impossible
to know where or when
because
there'd be all this shit in your way
there's no other way to put it
hahaha
and in this book
he's not moving
he's still in the same place
but he sees all the stuff around him move
that's how it'd be because you're traveling in that dimension you can't travel in physical, that's a contradiction
that's what I'm trying to say
it's a contradictvern

Jamie: if you traveled through time what would keep you from ageing yourself?

Me: well because that's physical
like
I don't think ageing has anything to do with the dimension of time
it's physical but it's because of the length of time
but
if you are speeding THROUGH time
in a matter of minutes...
a year to a minute
and even so
when you go back
to where you came from
you'd be the same
because no time would have passed
and you're preserved

Jamie: your would be older because your still aging in the future

Me: but if you break the barrier
of your life span
than who can say
what you would look like

Jamie: say you were in the future for 6 months
then you went back
you'd be sixth months off your lifespan

Me: you'd have aged
but I don't think while your traveling
because while your traveling
you'd be in a completely different dimension
like
you wouldn't be chained by the physical world
but then
in that transition
from time to physical
i'm pretty sure
like
that's how I think it'd work
because time has nothing to do with physical
and you can't travel in both
because that'd be like a contradicting german

Jamie: physical change is how time is measured in the physical world
so whos to say what time REALLY is

Me: yea but you can't really measure time

Jamie: we don't know because we've never seen

Me: besides having a calendar
it's pretty arbitrary

Jamie: going back to it being a concept

Me: just because the earth revolves around the sun
doesn't mean it has anything to do with time

Jamie: thats because the laws of gravity make it do that
nothing to do with the laws of time

Me: yea but it's a regular thing
it happens on schedule
but it changes
and that's what we say "time" is
when it's a lot more

Jamie: yeah
but we don't know what more it really is
because we are limited to just what we know
what we don't know
has to be found out
some how

Me: welll
time traveling is probably the only way to
actually going in the dimension
past our minds
that is

Jamie: if it really is a dimension
if we don't know anything about it other than the sun revolving yadda yadda yadda then whos to say it really is a dimension

Me: i don't think it is

Jamie: or a concept we just made up

Me: that's what I'm saying
i mean
i think it has some of the properties
but I think it's moe
more
it's what our whole existence revolves around
not only physical
don't panic is an awesome song

Jamie: coldplay?

Me: yea

-And that was our conversation last night, right now we are in OC and we were just talking about how Chris Carlin (some guy we don't know who just randomly posted on Jamie's livejournal) told us the "definition" of Time, but all I really have to say is, how do we know how to define Time if we've never seen it and just have an "idea" of what it is. Maybe our idea of Time is just something we made up?

Never shall you think you have it figured out.
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