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tangerinealtoid

rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice...

May 25, 2003 21:28

today i went into prescott to see a movie with Fletcher, and on the way there i watched as a car deliberatly tried to run another off the road. once he succeeded, he sped off as fast as he could, while the car that got run off tried to get out of the ditch he was stuck in. scary business. then i saw Bruce Almighty, with Fletch and i really ( Read more... )

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gonedaddygone May 26 2003, 16:23:00 UTC

Doogie - Well said. I don't know what else there is to say ( ... )

tangerinealtoid May 27 2003, 08:59:15 UTC

i'm afraid that maybe my position isn't as clear as i would like. let me restate it ( ... )

Re: gonedaddygone May 27 2003, 11:32:43 UTC

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Mr. Brown is a very talented teacher. However, when something like this happens in a career, it is hard to rebound. At first, it seemed like there would not be any consequences too devastating, but Mr. Brown has since lost his dream job in Japan. This, unfortunately, will haunt him for the rest of his life. Cy still has tuition to worry about and Jill and Gary still have houses and money to worry about. It's overly optimistic of you to think that artistry could be a sole means of support.

Lastly, I don't think I should say more on here because my tone may be misunderstood and I don't want to embarrass you. I will say one last thing...it seems a bit weird to me to have an 18 year old girl preaching about how this grown professionals should learn from mistakes and think before they act. Just an observation. I doubt you mean to sound that haughty.

tangerinealtoid May 27 2003, 19:26:29 UTC

i may be overly optimistic, but i'd rather that then being a bottom crawler, sucking the joy out of everything, and thriving on the dismal. (not an accusation)
like i've said a thousand times (and for the last time right now) if Japan was truly his "dream job" he should have thought more about what he was doing.
the only person you would embarrass by "saying more" would be yourself.
it's "wierd" for ME to "preach" about thinking before acting, but not for the people who did this morning at announcements?
and if my "preaching" is so "wierd", why come on MY journal (first of all) and continually post on the subject?
i caution you about arguing (or debating, or however you choose to look at it) for the sake of arguing. it's petty.
i have posted/replied on this subject for the last time. i think it has been beaten to death, and i am deeply tired of it. i anxiously await the time when i will no longer have to deal with this issue, all of the other issues that we beat to a pulp, and the people that feel they need to get involved in them

Re: gonedaddygone May 27 2003, 21:59:57 UTC

I bet.

poserwannabe May 27 2003, 09:03:15 UTC

I think everyone is fooling themselves. In the business world you get ride of what makes the business look bad. Yes Hart and Brown where incredible teacher. Yes they where important people but they fucked up. As much as I don't want either to leave, the have to face the facts. Sure it was only a misdemeanor, but it was a teacher giving alcohol to students. That is a damn big deal because it makes the business look bad. I hate to think that we are going to a school run more like a business. Browns career will no be ruined. I know from my families personal expeirences. But I do agree the Japan thing is wrong.

I ask the question though what are we looking for in our "voice?" We say we want to be heard by the faculty and have a voice but what are we looking for in using this voice? Power to make change? What kind of change? If I where the administration I would be worried about what the students where saying. They are liable for us and the school.

And I will say I also hate, no dislike Jenna Otto.

Re: gonedaddygone May 27 2003, 11:34:22 UTC

Jesse, I think you have effectively put yourself out of the "we" group. Maybe you should be asking yourself why YOU aren't doing anything.

Re: poserwannabe May 27 2003, 15:12:03 UTC

What should I do? Get on my knees and beg? Or should I have secret meetings about my emotions of what is lost? Oh no, maybe I should go attack the administration.
I don't understand what "you" are fighting for. To have time to express our emotions publicly at annoucments? I regret the lose, but I have no need to tell the world.
To me that annoucment session was all about guilt tripping the administration people.
I will fight for what I believe in. But I see nothing to fight for. Tell me what we are fighting for?

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