Sarah Palin's "Dead Zone" Moment

Jan 14, 2011 10:32

Sarah Palin's chances of winning the 2012 presidential election are now, effectively, zero, not that they'd ever been high.  There's still an outside chance that she could win the nomination, although I doubt it, but I'd bet a lot of money with really lousy odds against her winning the election.   I think it was pretty clear that she was far too ( Read more... )

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whoasksfinds January 14 2011, 16:52:29 UTC
wasn't it also reported that ms. gifford did die?

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mijopo January 14 2011, 19:52:16 UTC
Yes, NPR reported that she'd died, and then quickly corrected.

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whoasksfinds January 14 2011, 20:02:48 UTC
perhaps palin was responding to those reports?

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mijopo January 15 2011, 14:18:40 UTC
I suppose, but I'd be surprised if NPR is her primary news source, but even so, I just found it odd that she left it as "condolences" after it was clear she was alive.

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whoasksfinds January 15 2011, 18:06:17 UTC
if that confuses you, you're dumb

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mijopo January 14 2011, 19:51:00 UTC
Try searching on "express condolences" on Google, let me know how far into your search results you are before you find it being used to express sorrow or grief over an injury or something other than a death. It's used almost exclusively to express sympathy for a death. Palin either couldn't be bothered to get the information right or change her FB post when she realized it was wrong.

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gunslnger January 14 2011, 20:52:16 UTC
You can't change FB posts.

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mijopo January 15 2011, 14:16:11 UTC
Yes, you can. You can't edit status updates, but you can edit notes.

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mijopo January 15 2011, 14:15:20 UTC
No, my position is that it's almost always used only in a situation in which a death has occurred, I was suggesting that you look at actual usage.

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mrbogey January 15 2011, 14:31:43 UTC
Perhaps you should realize English is a richer language than you currently deign it to be.

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mijopo January 15 2011, 14:36:03 UTC
Of course it is, but we also don't get to make up private languages.

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mrbogey January 15 2011, 16:27:28 UTC
So the accepted usage of words by Palin is just fine.

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mijopo January 15 2011, 16:37:12 UTC
I'm just saying that it's very hard to find examples of situations in which people use 'condolences' in a situation in which a death hasn't occurred. I agree, though, that to do so would be consistent with some dictionary definitions of the term, but there I think the dictionaries fail to capture its de facto meaning, at least in most parts of North America. But, yes, insofar as the dictionary supports the broader usage, maybe I'm being unfair in imposing what I'm perceiving to be its accepted usage.

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