Do the States have the right to be wrong?

[fizzyland]

It's a question that has perplexed philosophers, theologians and scientists for thousands of years

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[fizzyland]

If it's the business of the states to keep people from murdering other people, why wouldn't it be the business of the states to keep people from murdering fetuses, which are a few months away from being people?

The basic problem is that the other mini-fiefdoms making up America, along with the Federal part of government, disagrees with their definition of murder. And so will the courts, yet again. This is not an approach to the Personhood debate that's worked in the past, so it's just a waste of legislative and court time.

And yes, I distrust the altruistic motivations of legislators attempting to throw up roadblocks to legal abortion because it makes them feel squicky inside.

I think I've been arguing this debate my entire adult life, including in person and I can say that the "crux of their argument" comes down to control issues(women doing things they don't like) and a frothy mix of sentimentality and superstition.

[underlankers]

Given a fetus can't talk and that all the ones that advocate for their rights happen to be old rich white people who probably have three mistresses and one wife while simultaneously bemoaning the decay to marriage that would be gays getting married.....

[mrbogey]

That the fall of the Caliphate was going to happen no mattr what. Thus facilitating neo-liberalism across Feudal Russia and causing the space race!

[underlankers]

Eleven11 is that you?

[underlankers]

That the old rich white dudes who advocate this aren't really giving a shit about the feti, only about controlling women.

[gunslnger]

Your tunnel vision is amusing. No wait, it's sad and pathetic.

[underlankers]

Coming from you? I call that seeing the forest for the trees.

[gunslnger]

That's because you don't understand me.

[underlankers]

Would I *want* to understand somebody who believes what you do? No.

[gunslnger]

You don't know what I believe. You never listen to anything anyone says in order to find out.

[underlankers]

How many pro-life activists have two X Chromosomes?

[underlankers]

What's that phrase again? Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics?