The spin machine is like an insatiable monster

May 26, 2016 11:04

Nice read here (for those who can be bothered enough - personally, it was fun for me to read it):

I Hate Presidential Poll Numbers (or: An Analysis of Why Donald Trump Will Win)

Some select pieces and bits:

"Rarely does a day go by without the media telling us the latest poll numbers and what they mean. And if the election was held today, do you ( Read more... )

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kylinrouge May 26 2016, 12:32:52 UTC
On that note, I see it everywhere online whenever Sanders wins, but Clinton winning you only see tumbleweeds.

Sanders was done a while ago. He does represent a shift that might be more apparent in the future.

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airiefairie May 26 2016, 14:23:52 UTC
With a spectrum that tilted towards the right in the US compared to anywhere else, the complaint that the media has a "liberal bias" whereas all it does is actually being centrist more or less by any global standards, comes across a bit overly biased. But that could just be me (hint: it isn't).

Since Trump and Clinton are both in the toilet from a favorability standpoint, though, it might not matter too much this year.

Which only adds more ammo to the point that favourability as a factor for predicting electoral outcomes (especially this early), is hugely overrated. When the choice is between two terrible options, favourability matters even less. Which still does not mean the press wouldn't waste huge amounts of time and effort constructing entire narratives around it.

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htpcl May 26 2016, 14:27:57 UTC
Don't know where you've looked, but all I hear around the Webs is how awesome Sanders is and what terrible human being anyone who might dare to support Clinton is.

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luzribeiro May 26 2016, 15:51:59 UTC
Whatever the case with this media thingy, one thing is for sure. As some reactions to this thread have demonstrated, nothing can stir up the bees nest, knock certain types out of their stupor and prompt them to eventually crawl from under whichever woodwork they've been hiding for ages, as someone's assertion gently tickling their ideological sensibilities at some point, somewhere, anywhere on the Internet.

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htpcl May 26 2016, 16:00:44 UTC
And your involvement has been just as disappointingly predictable. As will be my reaction: namely, to inform you that your compulsion for subtle (and quite deliberate) behind-the-back trolling, whatever the reason for it, will continue to NOT go unnoticed, and will keep pushing you ever closer to the precipice.

Do not respond to me. In fact, let me freeze this, as I'll keep doing with any other such not-so-subtle personal poke.

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oportet May 26 2016, 17:49:18 UTC
Hillary is more or less taking a knee at this point (for you foreigners in the room - it's like the goalie holding the ball, or some guy laying on the ground and pretending to be hurt while the clock runs out up whatever it is the clock does)

Bernie overachieved - but now he's a nuisance to Hillary and her chances - even moreso if that Trump/Sanders debate actually happens (anyone know if it is?) Every day he is still in the race means more negative feelings and soundbites criticizing Hillary and less time for her to undo them. The left leaning media understand this, and is doing their part to minimize the damage. Maybe it isn't ethical, or fair, or part of their job description at all - but it is understandable.

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ddstory May 26 2016, 18:45:29 UTC
it's like the goalie holding the ball, or some guy laying on the ground and pretending to be hurt while the clock runs out

You could've just said it's like the pitcher scratching his balls until everyone on the stands falls asleep, and you'd be understood just as well. ;)

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oportet May 27 2016, 02:10:48 UTC
I guess that works too....I was just trying to make my analogy world-friendly!

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ddstory May 27 2016, 05:35:54 UTC
That's such an un-American thing to do!

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underlankers May 31 2016, 00:30:32 UTC
Uh.....well, two things:

Lincoln only did that because the Democrats intentionally self-destructed and the consequences of that were a four year bloodbath that got some 720,000 people killed so that's hardly a role model to be endorsed here.

Though mathematically Bernie had a thin chance at best to take the nomination and has spent most of his campaign running to stay in the same place. His candidacy speaks more to a need to reform election laws to strip-mine aspects of the system and overhaul them into something completely different as opposed to anything else.

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