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In further pursuit of its heroic war against doctors:

Feb 09, 2016 17:19

Russia is now repeatedly bombing quite intentionally Doctors Without Borders ( Read more... )

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Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! mahnmut February 10 2016, 18:54:17 UTC

That bad, bad, evil continent that created Hitler and massacred the last group of minorities of any real significance! Shame on it.

For a moment I thought you were talking about the Native Americans, but then I spotted Hitler being mentioned in there so it can't be that.

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! underlankers February 11 2016, 00:25:29 UTC

The point about Native Americans is valid, yet nonetheless European protestations about anti-Semitism on the part of Muslim immigrants would be somewhat more convincing if their grandfathers hadn't deliberately murdered almost the entire Jewish population of Europe. And then proceeded to blame Hitler and/or Stalin for their gleefully collaborating in killing their neighbors and stealing their stuff afterward to add insult to injury.

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! mahnmut February 11 2016, 06:54:18 UTC

By that logic, almost no one has the moral right to call out anybody else on anything, because chances are the one calling out has some skeletons deep inside their closet. The moment they open their mouth to express some valid criticism, they'd be made to shut up with the tu quoque argument.

Doesn't foster an open debate of issues much, does it.

Really, what's the expiry date that a Hitler or a Stalin argument might have? Or are some nations forever prohibited from having a position on some issues?

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! dreamville_bg February 11 2016, 07:24:36 UTC

Oh, and by extension to my remark above about strawman, tu quoque is the second most prevalent fallacy that's been employed around political talk-rooms.

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! underlankers February 11 2016, 13:17:39 UTC

It's not Tu Quoque when other countries are following Russia's example and implementing dictatorship and rehabilitating the murderers of the past and attempting new wholesale ethnic cleansing of the Romani, Hitler's other major target. It's the present reality that Europe loves to ignore to piously proclaim superiority. When will Belgium apologize for Leopold II?

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! dreamville_bg February 11 2016, 18:15:49 UTC

Yes, yes, I get it, you're enamored with the Hitler references. I'm sure those will keep coming at an accelerating rate until your head goes assplode or something.

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! underlankers February 11 2016, 19:56:57 UTC

Nope, actually, I'm not. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, and now Germany are.

But I get it, you're incapable of understanding that this is shit happening in the 2010s, not the 1940s because it'd make the elaborate windmill you've constructed fall apart from a single kick to a rotting doorframe.

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! dreamville_bg February 11 2016, 20:32:06 UTC

I get it, you're unwilling and/or incapable of having a conversation without putting words into people's mouths.

And then you complain that you're being automatically accused of approaching discussions in bad faith.

LOL and meh. This isn't the first time I've come across someone like you, won't be the last. Next.

RE: Not a bad post at all. Hey, it's even got a Hitler! underlankers February 11 2016, 13:14:10 UTC

On some things, especially where only one country makes any effort at all for accountability, there is no statue of limitations. The USA already is relearning that after nullifying the Civil Rights Act. The Arabs aren't any different from Europe as it was. If anything they speak more to the real West than all the pious enabling of dictatorship in Hungary and Poland and rehabilitation of Holocaust perpetrators combined. The argument is still relevant when dictatorship is in an upswing and grandchildren of butchers rewrite them into heroes.

Or is it that Poland, Hungary, and the Baltic States are irrelevant because handwaving and Economics Uber Alles?

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