Anyone surprised that there isn't much news of this, and the little that's reported at all, mostly fails to mention the people surrounded and burned alive were pro-Russians? -->
The other day, dozens of pro-Russian protesters retreated to a Trade Union building from a mob of armed right-wing extremists, and as the latter surrounded the building
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It was covered in a NBC Nightly News report.
And it was covered by the New York Times too.
USA Today covered it too.
HuffingtonPost too.
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There's one article at the New York Times, yes, and it's somewhere around the middle pages. Meanwhile, their online version only remotely mentions Ukraine, and not in relation to the Odessa massacre, but something about Kiev's struggle to ( ... )
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Not enough Americans want to concern themselves with issues of things far away.
And though I've been following it, in a limited way, I still feel like a good hour+ seminar on Ukrainian history from a professor would be needed for me to know much more than: shit's fucked up over there....and Putin is a bastard, but what else is new.
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It *is* a civil war, and in addition a proxy civil war. Both sides are getting support from abroad, from their respective puppet-masters. For example, the pro-Russian separatists in Slavyansk keep shooting down Ukrainian helicopters (a 3rd one was brought down earlier today), which they can't do without equipment that's delivered from Russia. On the other side, there are already Western mercenaries preparing to fight for Kiev. It's going to get dirty, and a number of great powers are bracing themselves for another chess game. And who are the ones who'll pay the whole bill? Why, the Ukrainian people of course.
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Let me see if I'm reading it right.
1) The West supports the Euromaidan government.
2) Russia supports violent separatists in Ukraine.
3) There are right-wing extremists in the Euromaidan movement doing horrible things.
4) The Russian separatists are playing by Putin's long-rehearsed plan.
5) The West turns a blind eye to the horrible things the right-wing extremists are doing.
6) Putin is using the violence as an excuse to carve more parts off of Ukraine.
7) Neither side is a saint; both sides claim the other one is the villain; including Russia and the West; politics as usual, etc etc etc.
Your picture covers point (2) of the list, I believe.
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1. Some of the people that were inside of the building used handguns, auto weapons and molotovs against their opponents several hours before arson took place. A lot of videos out there proving that.
2. Many of the attackers, when realized that people are dying in fire, helped people to get out using ladders and construction scaffolding. There are videos about that also.
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Yes, some of the people outside were not like the others and didn't want to murder anybody. That doesn't make those who beat up the ones who were jumping through the windows any more saint-y.
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Agree. But from what I've seen there's only 1 video with 1 man beating someone, supposedly jumped from the building saving his life from fire, and lots of videos where multiple people doing something to help multiple people to escape fire.
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Agree. And that's not the point, and neither is how many people are good and how many are bad. It's not a mathematical equation. The point is, the so called Great Powers are taking sides, be it with their biased stances or their silence, even in the face of blatant atrocity. That's the whole point. But you could go on and spend the evening counting videos if you like.
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