Who said it?

Dec 01, 2013 09:45

Who said it?

December 01, 2013, 09:40
"... I didn’t ask, but just looking at faces I could tell there were some folks who are here not because they are born here..."
1:
a) a libertarian
b) a liberal
c) a conservative

2:
a) a racist
b) a limited immigration advocate
c) someone with an amnesty agenda

Hint: I can't seem to find it in the MSM.

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fizzyland December 1 2013, 18:49:23 UTC
Is there any practical solution for immigration reform that doesn't include amnesty?

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mahnmut December 1 2013, 19:42:37 UTC
The Hunger Games!!! The fittest shall survive!

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geezer_also December 1 2013, 21:43:29 UTC
Practical IS the operative word isn't it?
Personally I'm not against the idea of amnesty as part of the solution, just not a blanket amnesty.
My preference would be a literally case by case basis, but that's not only NOT practical but never going to happen.
Iirc even under the blanket amnesty by Reagan people had to apply and I know people who never bothered and remained (and still remain) in the "shadows".

Full disclosure (as if needed ;) ) As a conservative as far as I'm concerned it all has to start with a secure border, as lack of same is what made the Reagan amnesty not work.

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geezer_also December 1 2013, 22:16:14 UTC
There is another part of your link that says "The sharp decline in the U.S. population of unauthorized immigrants that accompanied the 2007-2009 recession has bottomed out, and the number may be rising again. "

Also while the majority of Mexicans (also from your link) say they would not immigrate to the US even if they could; still some 37% say they would (including a fair number who say they would illegally.

I would suggest that the fact the NET has fallen to 0 could be attributed to the reverse migration of '09-'11...See how much fun statistics are :D

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telemann December 1 2013, 22:46:22 UTC
Who are we trying to keep out?

Potential future Democratic voters!!! That's who!!!

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sandwichwarrior December 3 2013, 23:39:07 UTC
Sure end customs nd border enforcement (quasi-amnesty) but require proof of citizenship or legal residence to vote or collect any form of public assistance. In short, no franchise and no bennies unless youve paid your dues.

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gunslnger December 4 2013, 11:23:34 UTC
Yes. Start with making a distinction between people who want to actually move here and become citizens and those who just want to be here to work and send money back home. Then address why we have a quota system in the first place.

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fizzyland December 4 2013, 12:29:32 UTC
The former sounds problematic - are we going to interview 30 million people?

The latter as we know has all sorts of political and racial elements to it. Armenians get to roll in under refugee status despite a genocide that took place in 1919 and had nothing to do with us. The quota system is full of anomalies like that.

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gunslnger December 8 2013, 05:01:51 UTC
It doesn't take interviews. It takes having work programs set up properly so that those who only want that can do it without sneaking in, and those who want to immigrate follow a different path, again, one that is easy to get onto so that there isn't an incentive to sneak in.

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fizzyland December 8 2013, 05:14:21 UTC
Reasonable enough.

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